Downshifting
#17
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Great, aren't they!?
I still cannot rev-match on downshifting with 100% consistancy, but I am practicing. I think where most drivers go wrong when upshifting is that they don't go to neutral before sliding into gear. No more clutch feathering once moving and a much longer lasting clutch results.
Although I have heard some complaints about the WRX transmission, it has been a wet dream for me. I drove a 91 Eclispe GSX which had the longest throw and notchiest gearbox in the world. Great car but the WRX is in another class, IMO.
I still cannot rev-match on downshifting with 100% consistancy, but I am practicing. I think where most drivers go wrong when upshifting is that they don't go to neutral before sliding into gear. No more clutch feathering once moving and a much longer lasting clutch results.
Although I have heard some complaints about the WRX transmission, it has been a wet dream for me. I drove a 91 Eclispe GSX which had the longest throw and notchiest gearbox in the world. Great car but the WRX is in another class, IMO.
#18
the problem i have with just braking to slow down or stop without downshifting is that you are no longer in the appropriate gear if you need to accelerate for some reason.
If you need to shift more than one gear down, you're generally going slow enough that you can keep the clutch down and not miss the engine braking, at which point I habitually shift down through the gears without lifting the clutch, finishing on 1st when I'm stationary.
#19
Just a thought on this thread. One person mentioned that you should just ride the brakes to a stop. Not always possible, especially in snow, here's why:
Any manual transmission subaru is only AWD when the car is in gear. So down shifting/rev matching in the winter time is quite important. Especially when sliding through a turn
Any manual transmission subaru is only AWD when the car is in gear. So down shifting/rev matching in the winter time is quite important. Especially when sliding through a turn
#20
If the conditions are bad, one could question the wisdom of downshifting at all - as you noted, while the clutch is in you lose the benefit of engine resistance being delivered to all four wheels. (Might not be much if you're a couple of gears too high, but it's better than freewheeling)
Besides, if you're sliding through the turns then either you know what you're doing or it's already too late.
Besides, if you're sliding through the turns then either you know what you're doing or it's already too late.
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Thanks for an awesome link- I seriously think I'm going to burn those to discs and hand them out at meets!
Thanks for an awesome link- I seriously think I'm going to burn those to discs and hand them out at meets!
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got the vidz!! Dude greg can drive! He raped all those other cars at Laguna seca...wow!
As long as the forum is still alive though. I was wondering bout deccelerating by downshifting. Say a light turns red and you're about...well let's just say you're far enough u can see the light change to red and you have the time to downshift to second and you're in 5th. I usually just pop it in neutral and brake but since I've been reading bout double clutching and downshifting as a method to keep ur tranny and brakes for a lil longer, I've given double clutching a couple of tries. I usually downshift all the way down to 3rd and then when I try to double clutch to get to 2nd, the car jerks like a **** cuz I guess I'm still goin too fast. uhm...I guess what the question is...isn't it just better to shift to neutral and then brake all the way?
As long as the forum is still alive though. I was wondering bout deccelerating by downshifting. Say a light turns red and you're about...well let's just say you're far enough u can see the light change to red and you have the time to downshift to second and you're in 5th. I usually just pop it in neutral and brake but since I've been reading bout double clutching and downshifting as a method to keep ur tranny and brakes for a lil longer, I've given double clutching a couple of tries. I usually downshift all the way down to 3rd and then when I try to double clutch to get to 2nd, the car jerks like a **** cuz I guess I'm still goin too fast. uhm...I guess what the question is...isn't it just better to shift to neutral and then brake all the way?
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As long as the forum is still alive though. I was wondering bout deccelerating by downshifting. ...
By that point, the downshifts and a constant, light breaking should have you rolling pretty slow and almost to the traffic lights - no need to downshift again.
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