oaky what are the chances of being able to build a 22B? i understand fully that only 400 of them were hand built. and 2 of those 400 are owned by subaru for display purposes.....i know this much....

its a 290 hp ej22
its turbo'd with a functional hood scoop to feed into the top mount intercooler?

i dunno waht kind of turbo it used nor the intercooler type....

i was wondering waht things could i do to create a replica 22B here in the states.....

at least make it close to and put out as much power.....

thanks again!!!!

--mastermind--

 

If you give me $50,000 in cash I could do it for you

 

lol no no....seriously....

wat kind of ej22 block does the 22B have?

waht size/type of turbo does it have........

what kinda intercooler? (i know its topmount)

is that a prodrive kit all around? and where could i get fenders and panels to make it jsut as wide? (the 22B was 80mm wider)

well these are my questions.....if anyone could please answer them it would be great! thanks alot!

 

I heard its pretty hard to get the authentic 22B parts such as the motor and so on... Everything is registered in Japan so they either know the owner or know the Vin numbers of the car and you need either one of those 2 to get the parts. If you want a Replica kit I know Aerosim is in the works of making a 22b widebody kit. I also heard those BBS rims are very rare and a pretty penny to find... Shall we go on?

I think it would be best to get the kit, throw on some other EJ2?T, there are better engines. Do what you can with the car and be happy

 

keep in mind that the 22b was a fully closed deck, and from what i know, you can only purchase 22b engine parts directly from subaru and you have to be registered to get the parts.

 

Your best bet is just trying to make it look physically like a 22b with a replica body kit, replica wheels and such, and put a ej22t block in there with more modern heads and basically a better more custom setup for the rest of the drivetrain. The brakes you can get if you try hard enough, the suspension is impossible to find, any authentic 22b part like folks have stated would basically not be an option.

There has been a 22b replica body kit that has been in the works for awhile here in the states if you want to take a look: http://www.aerosim-research.com/subaru_wide.html

 

I have been blessed with the privledge of seeing that kit up close. I can't wait for Steve and the rest of the Aerosim staff to get that car done.

 

well its a 98 2 door L its a project car someone is leaving me to modify....he wants a 22b.....well its got a ej22...i found the turbos if anyone is interested.....umm the turbo found on the 22B is the IHI VF 23......

waht would i have to do to get a turbo on it....

the 22B has a 8-1 compression ratio....so should i get 8-1 pistons.....(those were molybentinum....)

and yes ill make sure ill contact those guys with that kit.....ill make sure i put taht on the car....

now waht about all that open deck and closed deck stuff and oil squirting stuff??

Thanks alot everyone!!! please respond if u see this

 

You need the legacy turbo EJ22T shortblock to get the closed deck block with oil squirters.

 

Serious question: Do you know the difference between open and closed deck and what oil squirters are?

Open/Semi/Closed Deck engine? (I use this description I stole off TFW from Nabisco because its the best description I have found thus far):
Ok...

An open deck (stock[wrx EJ20]) engine has almost no material in between the piston sleeves and the outer engine block. (look at where the pistons go in the following engine block pics, look at the ammoutn of open space in between the sleeves and the outer wall in all 3 pics..)


Open deck, (stock) like I said, has almost nothing for support in between the piston sleeves and the outer block wall.
Like so:


A semi-closed deck has shims added to it to add rigidity to the piston sleeves.

Like so:


and a closed deck is nearly solid metal around the piston rings. No open space at all.

Like so:


The reason behind all of this is pressure and boost tollereance within the engine. You can pump more pressure (PSI) into a smi-closed or closed deck engine than into an open deck engine without blowing it up since there is much less expansion going on and thus making it much, much stonger. The open deck only has a thin wall of a piston sleeve then the open space, a closed deck is uber reinforced and able to handle excessive boost.

The trade of is obvious.. open deck = light. Closed deck= very very heavy...

(pics from cobbtuning.com)

Oil squirters?
I don't know too much on them but basically they are supposed to squirt oil on the underside of pistons. The advantage of doing this is basically to lower chances of detonation giving you oppurtunity to raise boost. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Now if you are wanting an engine that is closed deck with oil squirters you might just want to look for a real subaru turbo engine that has this already built in. You can forget the whole open/closed deck but should be able to add oil squirters to the motor you have in your possesion now if doesn't have them already. The costs of turboing are usually much more then when someone first perceives them to be. Engine swaps IMO are the way to go, an engine designed to accept turbos and can upgrade turbos. Also, you won't to worry about compression or frequent problems with the motor. It will be much better than trying to turbo a non turbo EJ22. If you throw everything out on the table, a turbo EJ2?t IMO will Be much better than the idea of just simply using the 2.2L only because it has the same displacement as the 22B. Nobodys even going to be able to tell how much displacement the engine has by looking at it anyways. And the 22B motor is not the same as the 2.2L that is found in our USDM models... so displacement will be the same but there will a whole different world of differences between the motors.

Hope that helps... Good luck in constructing one of my many wet dreams

 

Hopefully soon, it used to be just Steve developing this kit but he actually now has a guy he is paying good money to strictly work on the kit with him.

 

Keep in mind that the 22b is seam welded from the factory, if you want to make an accurate replica... ouchie, that's gonna cost!

 

Steve says it will be debuting at SEMA this year... Cross your fingers