Opinions on first car for a 17 year old
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Opinions on first car for a 17 year old
ok well i'm 17 and looking to buy my first car. i need some of your opinions on what you think i should look at. it's proably going to be used, right now i'm looking at like 98ish eclipses, 2000 imprezas, or a 96-97 v6 jetta. i'd like some other options to look at and your opinions of what im looking at now.
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The only reason i am driving a 95 Talon TSi and not a 99 RS coupe, is b/c of power. i wanted a car w some power and not have to dump tons of cash in it. i love my tsi, but i think the rs far sexier, and just has that style. if its your first car, the rs may be the way to go. insurance is way lower, maintenence is lower, and you aren't stuck filling up with 93 oct. at $1.78! the rs will last longer too. they are great cars.
-PJ
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In my experience you should get a used car with a reasonable amount of power. Reason being is that since you will be hanging out around kids of like age, it's guaranteed to get scratched up so you might as well have a car you don't care about much. I had a Sentra hatchback when I was 16-18 and then graduated to a '91 Mustang hatch with a 5spd. I am very glad my mom wouldn't let me have the Mustang as my first car. I thought I could handle it, but looking back on it I bet I would have mangled myself and the car. So, I think if you are a responsible 17yo you may be able to handle a WRX if you can afford one. Just don't get too cocky, which I know is hard to control sometimes.
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Originally posted by Cabal
Go for a used Impreza RS. The Eclipse would probably just as reliable but not as fun, and a VW would live in the shop. Then again, you're asking an Impreza board.
Go for a used Impreza RS. The Eclipse would probably just as reliable but not as fun, and a VW would live in the shop. Then again, you're asking an Impreza board.
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I know this will not be a popular opinion, but I have always thought that it would be best to have a Rear Wheel Drive car as a first car.
This will allow you to learn the classics of car control and chassis balance, and give you a much broader base of knowledge. So many kids these days think that front wheel drive econoboxes and understeer are all that there is.
This will allow you to learn the classics of car control and chassis balance, and give you a much broader base of knowledge. So many kids these days think that front wheel drive econoboxes and understeer are all that there is.
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Originally posted by joecab
I know this will not be a popular opinion, but I have always thought that it would be best to have a Rear Wheel Drive car as a first car.
I know this will not be a popular opinion, but I have always thought that it would be best to have a Rear Wheel Drive car as a first car.
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Beau,
First, I would have to say a Mustang is a pretty extreme example of a rear wheel drive car - high horsepower, short wheelbase, with a primitive live rear axle. They are definitely twitchy in wet or slippery conditions. I am not saying I would recommend a Mustang as a good first car!
However, your experience is exactly what I was getting at. If a new driver learns to control and recover from both oversteer and understeer situations in a rear wheel drive vehicle they will have a very good grip on car control and vehicle dynamics that will apply to most cars they will drive in the future. I find those lessons very hard to teach in an understeering front wheel drive car.
First, I would have to say a Mustang is a pretty extreme example of a rear wheel drive car - high horsepower, short wheelbase, with a primitive live rear axle. They are definitely twitchy in wet or slippery conditions. I am not saying I would recommend a Mustang as a good first car!
However, your experience is exactly what I was getting at. If a new driver learns to control and recover from both oversteer and understeer situations in a rear wheel drive vehicle they will have a very good grip on car control and vehicle dynamics that will apply to most cars they will drive in the future. I find those lessons very hard to teach in an understeering front wheel drive car.
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Originally posted by joecab
If a new driver learns to control and recover from both oversteer and understeer situations in a rear wheel drive vehicle they will have a very good grip on car control and vehicle dynamics that will apply to most cars they will drive in the future. I find those lessons very hard to teach in an understeering front wheel drive car.
If a new driver learns to control and recover from both oversteer and understeer situations in a rear wheel drive vehicle they will have a very good grip on car control and vehicle dynamics that will apply to most cars they will drive in the future. I find those lessons very hard to teach in an understeering front wheel drive car.
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Beau,
I agree 100% that a performance driving or accident avoidance courses should be mandatory for all drivers. Period. Germany has very stringent drivers eduction courses and very low accident rates. They work.
Here's a point to ponder: 30 years ago, there were very few front wheel drive cars on American roads. Everyone learned to drive in rear wheel drive vehicles, but they did not "helplessly crash into the nearest solid object".
I agree 100% that a performance driving or accident avoidance courses should be mandatory for all drivers. Period. Germany has very stringent drivers eduction courses and very low accident rates. They work.
Here's a point to ponder: 30 years ago, there were very few front wheel drive cars on American roads. Everyone learned to drive in rear wheel drive vehicles, but they did not "helplessly crash into the nearest solid object".
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True, true. I attribute this to idiocy running rampant in America these days. That and I think kids were more afraid of their parents, mainly dad, so they didn't do stupid things with their cars. That is if they could even afford one. And finally, even the 'fast muscle cars' of the day weren't very fast most of the time. The best were in the high 13's usually, so a WRX would waste most of them stock for stock. Then there is the fact that the suspension's sucked and the bias ply tires were bad also, so you would think accidents would go down with the more modern driver friendly cars.
But still, I blame idiocy mostly. Florida is full of morons, it's really driving me nuts and I can't wait to leave. As soon as I graduate I'm going back north where people are normal and have most of their brain cells.
But still, I blame idiocy mostly. Florida is full of morons, it's really driving me nuts and I can't wait to leave. As soon as I graduate I'm going back north where people are normal and have most of their brain cells.
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I think you're right - "Dad" has a lot to do with it.
My father, for example, is probably the reason I love cars and also the reason I've never been in a serious accident. He taught me how to drive in the snow, how to drive in the rain, and how to drive like hell on a twisty back road when nobody is around.
My father, for example, is probably the reason I love cars and also the reason I've never been in a serious accident. He taught me how to drive in the snow, how to drive in the rain, and how to drive like hell on a twisty back road when nobody is around.
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Same here. I think I was sitting on my Dad's lap driving cars since I was probably 12 years old (that of course has stopped since, haha), so by the time I actually got my license I was very comfortable behind the wheel. Hearing his car stories from the '60s and helping him fix his cars through the years rubbed off on me, and I'm SO glad it did. This is the only hobby I've had for a period of time this long, the rest come and go.
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