LS1 Powered RX7? Your opinions?
07-10-2003, 08:57 AM
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LS1 Powered RX7? Your opinions?
I'm curious what you Suby guys think of this swap. The FD3S (93-95) RX7 with an small block chevy 350ci (5.7liter) V8 out of the Camaro/Firebird.
Now it's been proven time and time again that the weight distribution and total weight of the car are not changed. Handling is the same. And the stock rearend on the RX7 can handle the torque of a V8.
So how does it sound to everyone? A 2800lbs 350rwhp V8 with tons of torque and stock RX7 handling.
(I'm asking here because the RX7 guys get bent all out of shape if you take out the rotary engine)
Now it's been proven time and time again that the weight distribution and total weight of the car are not changed. Handling is the same. And the stock rearend on the RX7 can handle the torque of a V8.
So how does it sound to everyone? A 2800lbs 350rwhp V8 with tons of torque and stock RX7 handling.
(I'm asking here because the RX7 guys get bent all out of shape if you take out the rotary engine)
07-10-2003, 09:44 AM
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Im sure its more reliable, but i gotta agree with the rotoryheads, it is gonna take the fun out of the car. As far as weight goes, are you sure about that? A chevy 350 weighs a hell of a lot more than a rotary engine. Do you have an Rx or are you just asking about this? Beyond needing to make lots of custom brackets, fittings, whatever, there are gonna be problems with cooling and such.
07-10-2003, 10:11 AM
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The LS1 won't add a crap load of weight to the car. Not to mention bone stock LS1 swap will put you into the high 11's low 12's. I say go for it. At the very least you won't have to associate with the rotory guys. Any group that refuses to admit that a motor like the LS1 is impressive is full of ****. Its the same thing that makes the V8 guys sound like dumbasses for knocking on the turbo 4 cylinder guys.
07-10-2003, 10:18 AM
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The weight isn't changed. The LS1 has an aluminum head and block. Once you rip out the 13B-REW, the twin (heavy) turbos and all the controls and associated junk for those turbos the weight is identical.
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/
Check out this link for more detailed information. Brian Hinson makes all the parts you need for the swap. Custom engine cradle, tranny brace, drive shafts, etc...
And his work is heralded as some of the cleanest around. Be sure to check out the videos too. His "mule" car runs a 11.9 @ 119mph in the video.
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/
Check out this link for more detailed information. Brian Hinson makes all the parts you need for the swap. Custom engine cradle, tranny brace, drive shafts, etc...
And his work is heralded as some of the cleanest around. Be sure to check out the videos too. His "mule" car runs a 11.9 @ 119mph in the video.
07-10-2003, 10:54 AM
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sounds like a hell of a lot of fun to me, plus you have to love the rumble of a V-8 motor. it'd be kinda like a modern day hybrid Shelby Cobra, or a poor man's Panoz.
as long as you can get any cooling issues sorted out, and the drivetrain will handle it, i can't see any reason not to.
as long as you can get any cooling issues sorted out, and the drivetrain will handle it, i can't see any reason not to.
07-10-2003, 11:00 AM
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Yeah it's not a bad swap. An aftermarket radiator handles cooling. I also plan to do a 99Spec conversion. And 99Spec front bumper provides 33% more cooling than the original
The drivetrain can handle over 700rwhp no problem. The tranny will be the stock T56 6 Speed manual from the Camaro/Firebird, Viper, and Corvette. And we all know how stong those are. I'm debating converting the rearend to a Ford Cobra 8.8" instead of the stock 8" Mazda rear. Not for strength, but for a lighter box and a better ratio.
The drivetrain can handle over 700rwhp no problem. The tranny will be the stock T56 6 Speed manual from the Camaro/Firebird, Viper, and Corvette. And we all know how stong those are. I'm debating converting the rearend to a Ford Cobra 8.8" instead of the stock 8" Mazda rear. Not for strength, but for a lighter box and a better ratio.
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My friends had problems with the rear diff support brace bending and the steel brace that runs from the trans to the rear diff with actually start to snap. I'm sure they sell some different bracing to fix the problem though. A universal 9in rear end would work good.
07-10-2003, 03:10 PM
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did someone say enough power?
with attitudes like that we would have never seen the shelby cobra, turbo 911, or any over the top hotrod for that matter. I believe enough power is in the eye of the beholder. I say pop the top off that bad boy and throw a super charger her way, lets see what that thing will do then
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did someone say enough power?
with attitudes like that we would have never seen the shelby cobra, turbo 911, or any over the top hotrod for that matter. I believe enough power is in the eye of the beholder. I say pop the top off that bad boy and throw a super charger her way, lets see what that thing will do then
with attitudes like that we would have never seen the shelby cobra, turbo 911, or any over the top hotrod for that matter. I believe enough power is in the eye of the beholder. I say pop the top off that bad boy and throw a super charger her way, lets see what that thing will do then
then again, i do have to admit that nothing exceeds like excess, espescially in the power department.
07-10-2003, 08:05 PM
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You can have the 20B. The cost of swapping that engine into an FD is greater than the LS1 conversion. And you won't solve the problems with the RX7. Those being lack of low end torque and Apex seals that like to disappear.
07-10-2003, 08:07 PM
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BTW, 400-450hp will be my goal. And even then I might give it a 50shot of the laughing gas just for 1/4 runs. But I doubt it. With 400rwhp I'll have enough to beat Vipers and Z06's but not so much that my car will be undrivable.