Lift Off Over Steer
01-28-2004 | 08:27 PM
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Lift Off Over Steer
just how do you do a lift off over steer? take your foot off the gas when you're cornering while your tires are about to loose grip? what if your foot is already off the gas? do you have to over speed into the corner?
when i try to over steer my wrx, i usually flick the steering wheel left, then right, and the car would break traction while facing right, but it didn't feel like an over steer, more like a under steer with no traction on tires. it only over steers a little at the very end.
umm I don't usually do that kindda stuff on city streets, and if you give me any constructive advice, i promise i would only experiment it under safe and controlled conditions ( i know a few empty parking lots)
thanks
when i try to over steer my wrx, i usually flick the steering wheel left, then right, and the car would break traction while facing right, but it didn't feel like an over steer, more like a under steer with no traction on tires. it only over steers a little at the very end.
umm I don't usually do that kindda stuff on city streets, and if you give me any constructive advice, i promise i would only experiment it under safe and controlled conditions ( i know a few empty parking lots)
thanks
Last edited by banpreso; 01-28-2004 at 08:31 PM.
01-29-2004 | 04:38 AM
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I'm no expert, but if you want to talk about the physics of it, it might help you understand it better...
Lift-Off Oversteer is basically the result of a weight transition from the rear of the car (when acceleration or on the gas) to the front of the car (when the car inherently slows down while in gear).
This weight transfer combined with some turning will make your rear lose a lot of grip and allow it to kick out. You will no doubt have to be driving relatively at the limit for this to happen, depending on the type of surface you're on.
Give it a little flick to cause even more weight transfer laterally and that will make the oversteer even more apparent.
My guess is that the surface you're on is probably still too grippy. Dry pavement i'm assuming? find some snow and it'll be like night and day.
Lift-Off Oversteer is basically the result of a weight transition from the rear of the car (when acceleration or on the gas) to the front of the car (when the car inherently slows down while in gear).
This weight transfer combined with some turning will make your rear lose a lot of grip and allow it to kick out. You will no doubt have to be driving relatively at the limit for this to happen, depending on the type of surface you're on.
Give it a little flick to cause even more weight transfer laterally and that will make the oversteer even more apparent.
My guess is that the surface you're on is probably still too grippy. Dry pavement i'm assuming? find some snow and it'll be like night and day.
01-30-2004 | 01:39 PM
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Car Info: 2004 Subaru WRX
actually, i have driven many cars from BMWs to AUDIs to HOndas and Toyotas... only the subaru seems to have a lot of the lift off oversteer, sometimes its scary, but right off the bat its very controlable because it gently oversteers giving you time to react appropriately to what you want the car to do.
i have a stock suspension set up on my 04 Sube WRX with 18s on , lift off oversteer was acheived easy sometimes and harder sometimes... cant really explain it.... lol
i have a stock suspension set up on my 04 Sube WRX with 18s on , lift off oversteer was acheived easy sometimes and harder sometimes... cant really explain it.... lol
01-31-2004 | 03:44 PM
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Car Info: 1998 Subaru Legacy L 5-speed
just make sure your in gear as going in to the corner. Mr_Yellow had it right in saying that it is all about weight distrubution. The best part about lift throttle over steer is that you get the slide going and then all you have to do is countersteer through the corner and give it a little gas in exit to pull the tail back in and your already accelerating.
02-02-2004 | 11:34 AM
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It depends how fast you are going into the turn, also it depends on the angle you are comming in and your entrance speed. But try it out in a parking lot some time, the later you begin to correct (accelerate/countersteer), the less you tail end comes out. I dont make it go too far usually, but you can make it come out as far as you like as you get the hang of it...
Dan
It depends how fast you are going into the turn, also it depends on the angle you are comming in and your entrance speed. But try it out in a parking lot some time, the later you begin to correct (accelerate/countersteer), the less you tail end comes out. I dont make it go too far usually, but you can make it come out as far as you like as you get the hang of it...
Dan
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