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04-03-2011 | 02:02 AM
#34
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yeah, I don't see that happening either. I think its pretty BS that they've implemented that anyway. What if I want to hike up there and NOT use the cables? Can I just strap on my climbing shoes and go up a few yards on either side of the cables? Its only a 5.3 climb.
Every time I've ever gone in mid-may, there's usually still a LOT of snow to get over if you want to actually get to half Dome, and the cables are almost always still down. That's the best time to go, because most people won't go if the cables are 'down'....but they're not really 'down', and apparently permits are only required when the cables are 'up'.
04-03-2011 | 09:47 AM
#35
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Here you go:
"Backpackers with an appropriate wilderness permit can receive a Half Dome permit when they pick up their wilderness permit with no additional reservation required. Rock climbers who reach the top of Half Dome without entering the subdome area can descend on the Half Dome Trail without a permit."
http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/hdpermits.htm
I don't think it's bull**** that they implemented permits due to the fact that having 300 people trying to ascend and descend the cables all at once causes people to go much slower and creates more freakouts/freeze up moments. It just ruins the experience for everyone else, especially on a hot *** day.
"Backpackers with an appropriate wilderness permit can receive a Half Dome permit when they pick up their wilderness permit with no additional reservation required. Rock climbers who reach the top of Half Dome without entering the subdome area can descend on the Half Dome Trail without a permit."
http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/hdpermits.htm
I don't think it's bull**** that they implemented permits due to the fact that having 300 people trying to ascend and descend the cables all at once causes people to go much slower and creates more freakouts/freeze up moments. It just ruins the experience for everyone else, especially on a hot *** day.
04-03-2011 | 01:31 PM
#36
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Here you go:
"Backpackers with an appropriate wilderness permit can receive a Half Dome permit when they pick up their wilderness permit with no additional reservation required. Rock climbers who reach the top of Half Dome without entering the subdome area can descend on the Half Dome Trail without a permit."
http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/hdpermits.htm
I don't think it's bull**** that they implemented permits due to the fact that having 300 people trying to ascend and descend the cables all at once causes people to go much slower and creates more freakouts/freeze up moments. It just ruins the experience for everyone else, especially on a hot *** day.
"Backpackers with an appropriate wilderness permit can receive a Half Dome permit when they pick up their wilderness permit with no additional reservation required. Rock climbers who reach the top of Half Dome without entering the subdome area can descend on the Half Dome Trail without a permit."
http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/hdpermits.htm
I don't think it's bull**** that they implemented permits due to the fact that having 300 people trying to ascend and descend the cables all at once causes people to go much slower and creates more freakouts/freeze up moments. It just ruins the experience for everyone else, especially on a hot *** day.
Not trying to start an argument, but its not like they have people falling off the cables on a regular basis or something. Its a world wide tourist attraction, if you don't want to go when its crowded, then don't.
and I'm still interested to see how they'll ever enforce it for a period of time. The website does say its temporary though.
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