Yet another SF bright idea...
10-26-2009, 01:38 PM
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Yet another SF bright idea...
Call it sanctuary on wheels: San Francisco is about to give a big break to people, many of them illegal immigrants, who are caught driving without a license.
Beginning Sunday, cops will no longer impound cars the first time drivers are pulled over without a license.
The reason: Many such drivers are in the United States illegally - and thus unable to get a license - and the officials pushing the change think that impounding their cars is an unfair hardship.
Instead, unlicensed drivers will be given 20 minutes to phone a relative or other acquaintance with a valid license and insurance to pick up the car. If the driver doesn't have a cell phone, police will help him contact someone.
If no one shows up, then the cop is to call a supervisor to approve the tow.
A second offense within six months means an automatic tow. But, for those who stay clean for half a year, the clock starts over.
The change means San Francisco will be far more accommodating to unlicensed drivers than police in Oakland, San Jose and even lefty Berkeley. Cops in all those cities impound the cars of people driving illegally.
Recently installed Police Chief George Gascón said San Francisco is "trying to be sensitive to all of the communities we serve."
"We recognize that this is a problem within the Hispanic community, where people working here can't get a driver's license because of their immigration status," Gascón said.
The 30-day car impounds have long been a sore point with the city's Latino politicos and activists, who feel the practice is unfair.
Some police officers we spoke with, however, said people without licenses are often lousy drivers - and that the change means more dangerous streets for everyone else.
"These are the same people who are sailing through stop signs and injuring people," said one traffic cop who asked not to be named for fear of retribution.
Gascón emphasized that unlicensed drivers "will still be cited. If they don't learn their lesson and repeat offend, the car will be impounded."
The chief said the change was already in the works when he came to town at the end of July. He said it had sprung from conversations between Mayor Gavin Newsom, Supervisor David Campos - who arrived here illegally from Guatemala at age 14 - and former Police Chief Heather Fong.
Newsom spokesman Nathan Ballard - whose boss is refusing to implement Campos-backed legislation barring the city from turning over illegal immigrant youths to the feds if they haven't been convicted of a felony - confirmed that when it comes to giving unlicensed drivers a break, the mayor and the supe agree.
"On this one, we're all on the same page," Ballard said.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...#ixzz0V4loN6OV
So not only do illegals get healthcare in this city, and are allowed to roam free after they are arrested so that they can murder people, but now they get a free pass to break another CA law? So if I happen to be driving around a vehicle with liability only (not that I would), and some illegal unlicensed driver rear ends me, I have to pay for that fool's mistake? And nothing happens to them? This city is a bloody joke. I should pay for a billboard down in L.A. to tell all illegals to move to SF cause you will get hooked the **** up!
Beginning Sunday, cops will no longer impound cars the first time drivers are pulled over without a license.
The reason: Many such drivers are in the United States illegally - and thus unable to get a license - and the officials pushing the change think that impounding their cars is an unfair hardship.
Instead, unlicensed drivers will be given 20 minutes to phone a relative or other acquaintance with a valid license and insurance to pick up the car. If the driver doesn't have a cell phone, police will help him contact someone.
If no one shows up, then the cop is to call a supervisor to approve the tow.
A second offense within six months means an automatic tow. But, for those who stay clean for half a year, the clock starts over.
The change means San Francisco will be far more accommodating to unlicensed drivers than police in Oakland, San Jose and even lefty Berkeley. Cops in all those cities impound the cars of people driving illegally.
Recently installed Police Chief George Gascón said San Francisco is "trying to be sensitive to all of the communities we serve."
"We recognize that this is a problem within the Hispanic community, where people working here can't get a driver's license because of their immigration status," Gascón said.
The 30-day car impounds have long been a sore point with the city's Latino politicos and activists, who feel the practice is unfair.
Some police officers we spoke with, however, said people without licenses are often lousy drivers - and that the change means more dangerous streets for everyone else.
"These are the same people who are sailing through stop signs and injuring people," said one traffic cop who asked not to be named for fear of retribution.
Gascón emphasized that unlicensed drivers "will still be cited. If they don't learn their lesson and repeat offend, the car will be impounded."
The chief said the change was already in the works when he came to town at the end of July. He said it had sprung from conversations between Mayor Gavin Newsom, Supervisor David Campos - who arrived here illegally from Guatemala at age 14 - and former Police Chief Heather Fong.
Newsom spokesman Nathan Ballard - whose boss is refusing to implement Campos-backed legislation barring the city from turning over illegal immigrant youths to the feds if they haven't been convicted of a felony - confirmed that when it comes to giving unlicensed drivers a break, the mayor and the supe agree.
"On this one, we're all on the same page," Ballard said.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...#ixzz0V4loN6OV
So not only do illegals get healthcare in this city, and are allowed to roam free after they are arrested so that they can murder people, but now they get a free pass to break another CA law? So if I happen to be driving around a vehicle with liability only (not that I would), and some illegal unlicensed driver rear ends me, I have to pay for that fool's mistake? And nothing happens to them? This city is a bloody joke. I should pay for a billboard down in L.A. to tell all illegals to move to SF cause you will get hooked the **** up!
10-26-2009, 02:54 PM
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So not only do illegals get healthcare in this city, and are allowed to roam free after they are arrested so that they can murder people, but now they get a free pass to break another CA law? So if I happen to be driving around a vehicle with liability only (not that I would), and some illegal unlicensed driver rear ends me, I have to pay for that fool's mistake? And nothing happens to them? This city is a bloody joke. I should pay for a billboard down in L.A. to tell all illegals to move to SF cause you will get hooked the **** up!
free health care
you can drive here w/0 a license
yes it is i ahve proof!
thank you SF for making LA not look as dumb we just moved up a notch
10-26-2009, 03:45 PM
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so if an immigrant does something illegally in this country they should pay right?
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so if an immigrant does something illegally in this country they should pay right?
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10-26-2009, 04:26 PM
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Well on top of that, they have year and half to not kill someone again, and they start the count over. So in all technicality, they can kill someone every 18 months.
Oh and lets screw out the people who are insured, when they get into an accident with someone not licensed (which equals to not insured), great idea America! I should run for Mayor of SF. Let us cater to non-Americans in America. I'm not trying to be racist or ignorant, but we do live in a country with rules and rights. My mom is not a U.S. citizen but i don't tell her to go around doing illegal stuff.
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so if an immigrant does something illegally in this country they should pay right?
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10-26-2009, 07:45 PM
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Well on top of that, they have year and half to not kill someone again, and they start the count over. So in all technicality, they can kill someone every 18 months.
Oh and lets screw out the people who are insured, when they get into an accident with someone not licensed (which equals to not insured), great idea America! I should run for Mayor of SF. Let us cater to non-Americans in America. I'm not trying to be racist or ignorant, but we do live in a country with rules and rights. My mom is not a U.S. citizen but i don't tell her to go around doing illegal stuff.
Oh and lets screw out the people who are insured, when they get into an accident with someone not licensed (which equals to not insured), great idea America! I should run for Mayor of SF. Let us cater to non-Americans in America. I'm not trying to be racist or ignorant, but we do live in a country with rules and rights. My mom is not a U.S. citizen but i don't tell her to go around doing illegal stuff.
makes me want to sink the city lol