What would make for a better SHTF rifle?
04-10-2010, 08:48 AM
#16
Registered User
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 4,300
Car Info: http://kiva.org/invitedby/brett4254
The AR has long since won the battle for best "assault rifle". Keep in mind though, you aren't allowed to buy a "real" one in CA
If you manage, buy an SCAR
If you manage, buy an SCAR
04-10-2010, 10:12 AM
#17
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: San Leandro, CA
Posts: 3,856
Car Info: Forester XTi
04-10-2010, 05:16 PM
#20
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: San Leandro, CA
Posts: 3,856
Car Info: Forester XTi
04-10-2010, 05:17 PM
#21
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: San Leandro, CA
Posts: 3,856
Car Info: Forester XTi
04-10-2010, 05:35 PM
#22
Registered User
iTrader: (10)
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Snatchin' your people up
Posts: 3,779
Car Info: Hilux Double Cab with a Dishka on top
In an urban setting with a lot of bad guys running around, I'd rather pack a lighter weapon system that can carry more ammo.
I've had the chance to fire a SCAR-L before. It wasn't overwhelmingly better than any other 5.56mm carbine. It also really doesn't do anything an M4 can't do. Well except for the folding stock, which is nice if you're in a vehicle. One thing in particular I did not like about it is the reciprocating charging handle.
04-10-2010, 08:35 PM
#23
iClub Silver Vendor
iTrader: (25)
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Participating in some Anarchy!
Posts: 15,494
Car Info: 2005 LGT wagon
I prefer my 7mm Rem Mag to my .308 and my AR to my AK.
But if I could only take one weapon with me, the 870 pump wins.
Each round puts nine 9mm projectiles on target which will drop any threat in its tracks.
But if I could only take one weapon with me, the 870 pump wins.
Each round puts nine 9mm projectiles on target which will drop any threat in its tracks.
04-11-2010, 01:09 PM
#24
Registered User
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 4,300
Car Info: http://kiva.org/invitedby/brett4254
You can get an SCAR; there is a shop up in the East Bay that just got in a shipment
The guns ain't magic, they are just another evolution in the AR platform. Side mounted charging handle good stock. They are pretty badass
One could debate the .308 vs 5.56 thing for days or one could simply look to the fact that every major military force in the world uses 5.56
Without a doubt, .308 is more deadly; but they are heavy (more than twice the weight), loud and expensive In a SHTF situation would you rather carry 50 rounds of .308 or 100 rounds of 5.56?
ALL OF THAT SAID
I'm with Paul. If all you can have is one gun; a good 12-gauge shotgun is unbeatable.
The power of the gun, and the variety of ammo makes it more versatile than anything else out there
The guns ain't magic, they are just another evolution in the AR platform. Side mounted charging handle good stock. They are pretty badass
One could debate the .308 vs 5.56 thing for days or one could simply look to the fact that every major military force in the world uses 5.56
Without a doubt, .308 is more deadly; but they are heavy (more than twice the weight), loud and expensive In a SHTF situation would you rather carry 50 rounds of .308 or 100 rounds of 5.56?
ALL OF THAT SAID
I'm with Paul. If all you can have is one gun; a good 12-gauge shotgun is unbeatable.
The power of the gun, and the variety of ammo makes it more versatile than anything else out there
04-11-2010, 08:42 PM
#29
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: San Leandro, CA
Posts: 3,856
Car Info: Forester XTi
04-11-2010, 09:27 PM
#30
Shotguns can be out done by someone 30 yards or further. Even a simple 9mm Glock can outdo a shotty. Shotties are good for close ranges, I would say go for a AR undo the BB and put some kits together and have a few 30 rounders ready to go 
It is SHTF right? Who cares about laws that are silly and slow us CA peeps down.
Also name that shop, I thought about every shop I have been to and this one does not look familiar to me at all.
-Gio
It is SHTF right? Who cares about laws that are silly and slow us CA peeps down. Also name that shop, I thought about every shop I have been to and this one does not look familiar to me at all.
-Gio