What is 'twin-loop' exhaust? (was: can someone explane this to me)
02-26-2007, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 455h013
How can a muffler that cost 31 bucks on e-bay be of any quality?
Listen... it's just like having 2 mufflers in line. Just now, you got the benefit of having two mufflers, in the compact size of 1 muffler.
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02-26-2007, 04:32 PM
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as long as the piping is good size, the bends are smooth (DON'T HAVE TO BE MANDREL) and the muffler is straight through, this works fine!
A flowmaster flows less than this thing.
-Gagan
A flowmaster flows less than this thing.
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02-26-2007, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by STi-owns-evo
+1 and +2 for people who know what they're talking about!
For all the other morons who are calling it a POS, why are you saying it's a POS when you have no idea what it is.
For all the other morons who are calling it a POS, why are you saying it's a POS when you have no idea what it is.
Originally Posted by nKoan
Let me put it this way, the guy also sells neon, altezas and carbon fiber badges.
02-26-2007, 06:48 PM
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Origami posted by STi-owns-evo
+1 and +2 for people who know what they're talking about!
For all the other morons who are calling it a POS, why are you saying it's a POS when you have no idea what it is.
+1 and +2 for people who know what they're talking about!
For all the other morons who are calling it a POS, why are you saying it's a POS when you have no idea what it is.
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02-26-2007, 09:53 PM
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455h013 - Like Gagan said, price doesn't mean quality. To many owners, especially without turbos (which help resonate the exhaust), power isn't everything and would rather not be noticed by police. I'm sure we've all seen our fair share of posts saying "F THE COPS, I GOT PULLED OVER FOR EXHAUST." Some people want to avoid it, and this helps to avoid it.
nKoan - Same as above, power isn't everything from an exhaust. I have a MRT full turbo back, it might not make the best power, but I've never been targeted by cops for my exhaust.
joltdudeuc - Thank you for more educated information
kYLEMtnCRUZr - I guess we should never buy from most vendors as a lot of them sell many "ricer" mods. So don't go to MPJ, Gruppe-S because they sell carbon fiber badges... right.... Makes a whole lot of sense to me.
Wingless Wonder - As I stated above. It's meant to increase power, but low noise is it's main priority. Also, just because a 2.5" exhaust isn't ideal for the EJ20 doesn't mean it won't produce the same amount of power from a N/A motor as any other louder exhausts for the same application. Most exhausts do almost nothing for N/A motors power-wise, so it probably gains the same amount while keeping the noise low.
I'm confused on how you guys make fun of N/A cars with loud exhausts, which are catless just like ours. The only reason why Subarus aren't as loud is the unequal length (which actually can rob power) and the turbocharger acting as a resonator. This exhaust allows the cars to be quiet and still open up the exhaust to gain power. just because it isn't ideal for 1 car doesn't mean it's not ideal for others
Oh yeah, me referring to morons was more directed towards posts like
"What the HELL kind of exhaust is that...
Don't buy it, it'll probably blow up your car."
nKoan - Same as above, power isn't everything from an exhaust. I have a MRT full turbo back, it might not make the best power, but I've never been targeted by cops for my exhaust.
joltdudeuc - Thank you for more educated information
kYLEMtnCRUZr - I guess we should never buy from most vendors as a lot of them sell many "ricer" mods. So don't go to MPJ, Gruppe-S because they sell carbon fiber badges... right.... Makes a whole lot of sense to me.
Wingless Wonder - As I stated above. It's meant to increase power, but low noise is it's main priority. Also, just because a 2.5" exhaust isn't ideal for the EJ20 doesn't mean it won't produce the same amount of power from a N/A motor as any other louder exhausts for the same application. Most exhausts do almost nothing for N/A motors power-wise, so it probably gains the same amount while keeping the noise low.
I'm confused on how you guys make fun of N/A cars with loud exhausts, which are catless just like ours. The only reason why Subarus aren't as loud is the unequal length (which actually can rob power) and the turbocharger acting as a resonator. This exhaust allows the cars to be quiet and still open up the exhaust to gain power. just because it isn't ideal for 1 car doesn't mean it's not ideal for others
Oh yeah, me referring to morons was more directed towards posts like
"What the HELL kind of exhaust is that...
Don't buy it, it'll probably blow up your car."
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02-26-2007, 10:34 PM
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screw you guys... I'm going to buy one next month, and have it welded into a catback.
I'll find someone to test it. I bet it will make within 5whp of any catback you can currently purchase for 5x the amount. ****ing lameass elitists
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I'll find someone to test it. I bet it will make within 5whp of any catback you can currently purchase for 5x the amount. ****ing lameass elitists
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02-26-2007, 11:42 PM
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Gagan, have it tested it on an STi. The ad claims gains of 8% to 10% horsepower (over stock?). If it really flows that well, a 2.5 turbo should benefit greatly.
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02-27-2007, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingless Wonder
Gagan, have it tested it on an STi. The ad claims gains of 8% to 10% horsepower (over stock?). If it really flows that well, a 2.5 turbo should benefit greatly.
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02-27-2007, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MBasile
yeah, I'd go with a $32 ebay exhaust over a $500 name brand exhaust 
02-27-2007, 10:15 AM
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so why spend the money?!?!
What is SO special about "name brands" that new companies are thought of as crap?
were name brands NOT new, small companies at one time? Sure they were.'
Truth is, in about a month, and PLEASE, don't let me forget, I'll show that this "pos" muffler can be quieter, and make about the same hp...
save $400
-Gagan
What is SO special about "name brands" that new companies are thought of as crap?
were name brands NOT new, small companies at one time? Sure they were.'
Truth is, in about a month, and PLEASE, don't let me forget, I'll show that this "pos" muffler can be quieter, and make about the same hp...
save $400
-Gagan
02-27-2007, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by vietnameeh
u do realize all ebay products say the same crap... filters and ricer badges all add 8+%
So i thought, i could get an injen for $230...
I tried cobb first... waited 3 weeks on back order. canceled...
I tried injen... waited 4 weeks on back order. canceled...
I looked on ebay and saw a $45 obx intake (cold air). So i got it, i added a $35 k&N filter, changed the hoses out to silicone with nice clamps, changed the vacuum lines out to nice goodyear fuel lines. $135...
I then dynoed it, and now, everyone told me, it wouldn't make power, and i'd lose a butt load of tq... and I lost NO tq, and made power and tq everywhere, especially in the midrange, where i needed it most.
don't put down some of these ebay products. They work, and they are way cheaper than other solutions available.
02-27-2007, 10:50 AM
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I have an ERZ uppipe on my car. Got it on ebay over 2 years ago for $95 shipped. looks identical to the Helix uppipe, but half the cost at the time. still in the car, still working perfectly.
I wouldn't trust all ebay products, but I trust some.
Gagan, I can't wait to see the exhaust reach around. I'll make sure to take a picture.
I wouldn't trust all ebay products, but I trust some.
Gagan, I can't wait to see the exhaust reach around. I'll make sure to take a picture.
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