Well since the word has spread... My suby is dead
08-12-2005, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS
:rotfl: Sperry's got more track miles and autocross runs than you have trips to the store dude.
And... how do you know how many times I've been to the store? That's just creepy.
08-12-2005, 10:46 AM
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Think you are right..
Unfortunately I think you are right. Since this is a solo accident it really points to driver error unless they can figure out otherwise. That is why I would get the tire company involved as well as really letting them know you had it serviced and exactly what was done. It is possible that you just had gunk on your tires, but then again maybe they did something wrong. I kow I wouldn't deflate my tires on the ground. IT could unseat the bead or something and is also just bad practice. I am not an expert, but any time I see my hot rod neighbors do tire work they either have the wheel off the car or it is up on a lift. That is just my opinion...
I would go to the yard and make sure the lug nuts are also not stripped and tightened apropriately.
Someone mentioned a crash investigator. It may cost you out of pocket money, but in the long run if they can prove you didn't do anything wrong it may be worth it's weight in gold.
My wife backed into a pole in a parking lot five years ago and it did $1,400 in damage. They made it nice again but all of a sudden we were paying 70% more.. Ouch!!!! When I asked them why they said it was due to the accident, and in six months they would review it again. Well I did the calculations and i would have payed them back for the work plus 30%!!!! That is not why I pay insurence, so we switched and got a lower rate than what we were paying before. So in the long run it makes sense to fight this tooth and nail and not let them chop it up to your fault...
Bring in experts, and what ever else you can think of. Ask the tire manufaturer if it ok to deflate the tires while on the ground.. Make the phone calls and get experts involved. It may be in the end it was brake fluid or something like that but make sure it doesn't go against you...
I always hate hearing about follks totalling their cars, but it erks me even more when the insurence compaies screw you down the road for something that shouldn't have happend.
It could be as simple as the tire company saying under no circumstances should the tires be deflated while on the vehicle, if it is not on a lift. This inserts doubt into the service companies procedures, and will bring fault away from you.
I am so glad you are ok... Good luck on this..
I would go to the yard and make sure the lug nuts are also not stripped and tightened apropriately.
Someone mentioned a crash investigator. It may cost you out of pocket money, but in the long run if they can prove you didn't do anything wrong it may be worth it's weight in gold.
My wife backed into a pole in a parking lot five years ago and it did $1,400 in damage. They made it nice again but all of a sudden we were paying 70% more.. Ouch!!!! When I asked them why they said it was due to the accident, and in six months they would review it again. Well I did the calculations and i would have payed them back for the work plus 30%!!!! That is not why I pay insurence, so we switched and got a lower rate than what we were paying before. So in the long run it makes sense to fight this tooth and nail and not let them chop it up to your fault...
Bring in experts, and what ever else you can think of. Ask the tire manufaturer if it ok to deflate the tires while on the ground.. Make the phone calls and get experts involved. It may be in the end it was brake fluid or something like that but make sure it doesn't go against you...
I always hate hearing about follks totalling their cars, but it erks me even more when the insurence compaies screw you down the road for something that shouldn't have happend.
It could be as simple as the tire company saying under no circumstances should the tires be deflated while on the vehicle, if it is not on a lift. This inserts doubt into the service companies procedures, and will bring fault away from you.
I am so glad you are ok... Good luck on this..
08-12-2005, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hurucan
You can.
In college, I was heading out to West Virginia to ski and had my right two tires hit a patch of black ice. I was going 50 on a straight stretch of road. THe car jerked, and I overcompensated on the steering wheel. WHen the tires got traction again, the car pulled sideways and rolled two or three times.
Oh ya, I didn't leave any skid marks, either. Just a whole lot of broken glass and and some blue paint off the roof.
In college, I was heading out to West Virginia to ski and had my right two tires hit a patch of black ice. I was going 50 on a straight stretch of road. THe car jerked, and I overcompensated on the steering wheel. WHen the tires got traction again, the car pulled sideways and rolled two or three times.
Oh ya, I didn't leave any skid marks, either. Just a whole lot of broken glass and and some blue paint off the roof.
08-12-2005, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SnoHumper
last time i checked it doesnt snow in davis... no black ice either i would think
"In college, I was heading out to West Virginia"
???
08-12-2005, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by STi-owns-evo
How do you get Davis from
"In college, I was heading out to West Virginia"
???
"In college, I was heading out to West Virginia"
???
08-12-2005, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SnoHumper
last time i checked it doesnt snow in davis... no black ice either i would think
08-13-2005, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Hurucan
My point was you can roll going 50 (and not leave skid marks). I wasn't trying to offer an explanation as to why Ed wrecked.
08-13-2005, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SnoHumper
this whole thread is about him wrecking... wtf?
Thanks
08-13-2005, 06:23 AM
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SnoHumper
i dont think you can possibly slide back and forth, feint, fishtail whatever a few times, then roll 3 times all from 50 mph. are you sure you didnt fishtail onto a bmx course or something?
He expressed his disbelief that you could fishtail a few times and then roll 3 times at 50mph.
I know you can, because it's happened to me.
How is that irrelevant?
08-13-2005, 08:57 AM
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Ed,
I'm glad that you're ok and sorry that your car is gone (although I'm sure it will be replaced with something equivalent or better).
However, I'm very displeased with the way I-club is taking this thread. There are many members who actually feel bad for you crashing, while there are those few haters who have nothing else better to do than to bang on you while you're down. That's not what I-club is supposed to be, since the "I" doesn't stand for Idiot as many here don't know.
Good luck with everything and take care.
Oleg
I'm glad that you're ok and sorry that your car is gone (although I'm sure it will be replaced with something equivalent or better).
However, I'm very displeased with the way I-club is taking this thread. There are many members who actually feel bad for you crashing, while there are those few haters who have nothing else better to do than to bang on you while you're down. That's not what I-club is supposed to be, since the "I" doesn't stand for Idiot as many here don't know.
Good luck with everything and take care.
Oleg
08-13-2005, 11:03 AM
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you guys really should not take anything to heart from SnoHumper. He is just some kid in high school like half the jack-offs on here. He most likely has gotten his *** kicked around so much he feels the need to e-bully. Cause that is the popular thing now in grade school. The bullied become the bully. Or in this case try to.
The douche bags will always be every where, even on nasioc.
Alex - I have a feature request, and I could even help code it. Make an option for logged in users to meta-moderate like on slashdot.org, so frequent users can +1 or -1 retarded posts or users. and if people choose to not view -1 posts, then we do not have to see the BS they post, but still is there for the rest of the world to see.
The douche bags will always be every where, even on nasioc.
Alex - I have a feature request, and I could even help code it. Make an option for logged in users to meta-moderate like on slashdot.org, so frequent users can +1 or -1 retarded posts or users. and if people choose to not view -1 posts, then we do not have to see the BS they post, but still is there for the rest of the world to see.
08-13-2005, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Calsoldier
I'm very displeased with the way I-club is taking this thread. There are many members who actually feel bad for you crashing, while there are those few haters who have nothing else better to do than to bang on you while you're down. That's not what I-club is supposed to be, since the "I" doesn't stand for Idiot as many here don't know.
good thing is, if the tyres are inflated to 90psi, there will be evidence, if the oil filter was not screwed on correctly, there will be evidence, if there was a snapped suspension part, there will be evidence.
like someone previously said, a crash investigator will soon get to the heart of any major failures of the car. then this will be put to rest....or not.
Glad to hear your o.k. Ed, get a legacy GT, keep it dead stock and make it 400whp, that'll shock a few Porsches.