The truth about i-speed..."back to the bay..."
03-10-2005, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 02BlackWRX
I wasn't saying anything about them when they were in town b/c I didnt experience a good tuner at that point and I didn't know how bad my car was actually running at that point.....I ALWAYS mentioned to Bill that my car doesn't seem quick, but it was always the same story "We dont like tuning cars to their max b/c that may make em unsafe...you will see how long your car will last and you will see how long davons car will last, we have a higher margin of safety"....That is totally wrong...they have a higher margin of error and their cars make less power.
well then I am sorry...I never new you had bad issues with them. I guess I will leave it at that...seeing that I can't change that for you.
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03-10-2005, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by I-Speed USA
This truth is quite amusing.
- Most of you only know what people tell you. Did you ever realize that what people tell you is only half the story? Do you ever verify both sides? Nah, that would require real work, actual listening, and some integrity.
- Alex didn't ban me. We had a falling out over a disagreement. Because of that disagreement Alex removed our vendor status on i-club.
- Tuning...
We have noticed that several Bay area customers had needing tuning. Of course, being in the LA area, we cannot fill that need anymore. Because of this, the customers seek tuning elsewhere. Is it really any surprise that the next tuner they meet says how bad their previous tune was? I can just imagine any tuner getting a car and saying, "gee that tune you had before was just soo great that I can't do any better". It's no secret that each tuner has their own way of doing things and oddly enough, they always think that their tuning is the best. But you all already new that from all those cars you have tuned, right?
- I am money hungry and I know nothing huh. Gee, that really makes a whole lot of sense. Let's see I left my nice high-paying , secure, corporate job in the Bay Area , moved to SoCal with nothing, and basically busted my butt to get the little I have now.
On top of that, if we were so money hungry I would not have volenteered to pay of pocket for the mistakes that we made on SDs car. To say that we didn't care about that whole project is nothing short of insane. I can actually remember making the 15 hour drive in the middle of the night, to replace parts, that we screwd up on, for the project. Obviously the whole project didn't turn out the way everyone wanted. I would like to think that in over one year and half since then, that we have learned a few new things.
But, we all know that the BAIC , in all its perfection, doesn't let people make mistakes or, heaven forbid, actually learn from their mistakes and , dare I say....get better.
Don't worry, seeing and hearing the continual BAIC I-Speed bashing only helps us see the mistakes we made in the past. This in turn makes our future better.
See you guys around
Chris
- Most of you only know what people tell you. Did you ever realize that what people tell you is only half the story? Do you ever verify both sides? Nah, that would require real work, actual listening, and some integrity.
- Alex didn't ban me. We had a falling out over a disagreement. Because of that disagreement Alex removed our vendor status on i-club.
- Tuning...
We have noticed that several Bay area customers had needing tuning. Of course, being in the LA area, we cannot fill that need anymore. Because of this, the customers seek tuning elsewhere. Is it really any surprise that the next tuner they meet says how bad their previous tune was? I can just imagine any tuner getting a car and saying, "gee that tune you had before was just soo great that I can't do any better". It's no secret that each tuner has their own way of doing things and oddly enough, they always think that their tuning is the best. But you all already new that from all those cars you have tuned, right?
- I am money hungry and I know nothing huh. Gee, that really makes a whole lot of sense. Let's see I left my nice high-paying , secure, corporate job in the Bay Area , moved to SoCal with nothing, and basically busted my butt to get the little I have now.
On top of that, if we were so money hungry I would not have volenteered to pay of pocket for the mistakes that we made on SDs car. To say that we didn't care about that whole project is nothing short of insane. I can actually remember making the 15 hour drive in the middle of the night, to replace parts, that we screwd up on, for the project. Obviously the whole project didn't turn out the way everyone wanted. I would like to think that in over one year and half since then, that we have learned a few new things.
But, we all know that the BAIC , in all its perfection, doesn't let people make mistakes or, heaven forbid, actually learn from their mistakes and , dare I say....get better.
Don't worry, seeing and hearing the continual BAIC I-Speed bashing only helps us see the mistakes we made in the past. This in turn makes our future better.
See you guys around
Chris
Dude get the **** over it your a self loving ***** who know **** about cars, i mean what kind of self respecting shop would TUNE ANY CAR WITH OUT A ****ING WIDEBAND!!!!!!!!!!
NONE
And by judging my your guys tune, and your tone you and your ****ing lackeys are a bunch of ****ing crooks who should be ripping off grandmas for their pensions instead of ****ing people out of their modding money. It is ****s such as your self that should be removed from the gene pool.
And come back to me when you figure out what lambda is......
Did i mention you seem to masterbate to your own voice?
03-10-2005, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
Do i hear a bit of "oh ****, im in trouble now they are on to me" in your tone of post?
Dude get the **** over it your a self loving ***** who know **** about cars, i mean what kind of self respecting shop would TUNE ANY CAR WITH OUT A ****ING WIDEBAND!!!!!!!!!!
NONE
And by judging my your guys tune, and your tone you and your ****ing lackeys are a bunch of ****ing crooks who should be ripping off grandmas for their pensions instead of ****ing people out of their modding money. It is ****s such as your self that should be removed from the gene pool.
And come back to me when you figure out what lambda is......
Did i mention you seem to masterbate to your own voice?
Dude get the **** over it your a self loving ***** who know **** about cars, i mean what kind of self respecting shop would TUNE ANY CAR WITH OUT A ****ING WIDEBAND!!!!!!!!!!
NONE
And by judging my your guys tune, and your tone you and your ****ing lackeys are a bunch of ****ing crooks who should be ripping off grandmas for their pensions instead of ****ing people out of their modding money. It is ****s such as your self that should be removed from the gene pool.
And come back to me when you figure out what lambda is......
Did i mention you seem to masterbate to your own voice?
LOL hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
outa nowhere... Andre comes along........
03-10-2005, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
Do i hear a bit of "oh ****, im in trouble now they are on to me" in your tone of post?
Dude get the **** over it your a self loving ***** who know **** about cars, i mean what kind of self respecting shop would TUNE ANY CAR WITH OUT A ****ING WIDEBAND!!!!!!!!!!
NONE
And by judging my your guys tune, and your tone you and your ****ing lackeys are a bunch of ****ing crooks who should be ripping off grandmas for their pensions instead of ****ing people out of their modding money. It is ****s such as your self that should be removed from the gene pool.
And come back to me when you figure out what lambda is......
Did i mention you seem to masterbate to your own voice?
Dude get the **** over it your a self loving ***** who know **** about cars, i mean what kind of self respecting shop would TUNE ANY CAR WITH OUT A ****ING WIDEBAND!!!!!!!!!!
NONE
And by judging my your guys tune, and your tone you and your ****ing lackeys are a bunch of ****ing crooks who should be ripping off grandmas for their pensions instead of ****ing people out of their modding money. It is ****s such as your self that should be removed from the gene pool.
And come back to me when you figure out what lambda is......
Did i mention you seem to masterbate to your own voice?
OMG, Andre... Tell us how you really feel.
AHHAHAH!
03-10-2005, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 1WRX2NV
Unfinished dyno tune was at 280whp, it was street tuned again after I added somemore stuff...felt better too. Remember I was always adding crap. So, I would say somewhere between 280-300whp. 91 oct. And I was very happy with it. Never lost with it..and I would have done better than you in your freeway vid with Davon. lol heheheh...Too bad I put it back to stock before I got to finish it up.
Oh well back to the drawing boards!!!
-freddie
Oh well back to the drawing boards!!!
-freddie
U never did get to race me now did yah
haha
03-10-2005, 08:32 PM
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I guess I should chime in on this thread as well.
I dealt with I-Speed (Bill, Chris and Andy) quite often and I have nothing but good things to say about them and their work. They were always cool to me and showed respect towards me every time I ran into them.
I spent quite a bit of money on tuning with my WRX with I-Speed. First it was the UTEC knocking all the time. It seemed as though Bill tried his hardest to tune it, but there weren't other tuners that I trusted with my car at that time. Then I got their EcuTek and never had a problem, although I did question the whp for my setup. But whatever.
My experience dealing with I-Speed was 1,000,000 times better than dealing with Shiv, that's for sure.
Kurlee Daddee
(THE ORIGINAL)
I dealt with I-Speed (Bill, Chris and Andy) quite often and I have nothing but good things to say about them and their work. They were always cool to me and showed respect towards me every time I ran into them.
I spent quite a bit of money on tuning with my WRX with I-Speed. First it was the UTEC knocking all the time. It seemed as though Bill tried his hardest to tune it, but there weren't other tuners that I trusted with my car at that time. Then I got their EcuTek and never had a problem, although I did question the whp for my setup. But whatever.
My experience dealing with I-Speed was 1,000,000 times better than dealing with Shiv, that's for sure.
Kurlee Daddee
(THE ORIGINAL)
03-10-2005, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Wingless Wonder
I think we have to distinguish what makes a 'bad' tune. If you're down on power compared with other cars with the same mods, it's not necessarily a bad tune if it doesn't ever run lean enough to put holes in the pistons or otherwise ruin an engine. It may be down on power, but each tuner has their own methodology. You don't have to be happy with less power but with any tuner I'd rather be safe than sorry. But, if it can be shown that a tune caused an engine failure or drastically reduced the life of the engine that should be a serious concern to anyone.
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Good point, if only the AFR's didnt look like a drunken man trying to draw the alps on a napkin...
Power is and should be the second thing you look for, the first being SAFETY.. EIther of which NOSPEED couldnt do very well....
03-10-2005, 08:35 PM
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Holy cow dude. Thats was completely uncalled for. Its one thing to have legitimate complaints about I-Speed's ability to tune a car, but there's no need to swear up one side and down the other and claiming they ********** to their own voice.
I know nothing about I-Speeds ability, but really, get a hold of yourself.
I know nothing about I-Speeds ability, but really, get a hold of yourself.
Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
Do i hear a bit of "oh ****, im in trouble now they are on to me" in your tone of post?
Dude get the **** over it your a self loving ***** who know **** about cars, i mean what kind of self respecting shop would TUNE ANY CAR WITH OUT A ****ING WIDEBAND!!!!!!!!!!
NONE
And by judging my your guys tune, and your tone you and your ****ing lackeys are a bunch of ****ing crooks who should be ripping off grandmas for their pensions instead of ****ing people out of their modding money. It is ****s such as your self that should be removed from the gene pool.
And come back to me when you figure out what lambda is......
Did i mention you seem to masterbate to your own voice?
Dude get the **** over it your a self loving ***** who know **** about cars, i mean what kind of self respecting shop would TUNE ANY CAR WITH OUT A ****ING WIDEBAND!!!!!!!!!!
NONE
And by judging my your guys tune, and your tone you and your ****ing lackeys are a bunch of ****ing crooks who should be ripping off grandmas for their pensions instead of ****ing people out of their modding money. It is ****s such as your self that should be removed from the gene pool.
And come back to me when you figure out what lambda is......
Did i mention you seem to masterbate to your own voice?
03-10-2005, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 1WRX2NV
WTH????????????
LOL hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
outa nowhere... Andre comes along........
LOL hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
outa nowhere... Andre comes along........
**** it man im tired of hearing about people getting ****ed, this is my damn community, my damn buddies who keep getting ****ed over and over again.
****em you **** with me, my freinds, my family, i will come the **** after you.
Plain and ****ing simple.
Hit em where it hurts i say, since i dont feel like going to jail i wont handle my self in the ways i used to, so i will just sit here in the intraweb and *****, moan, gripe, cry, harass, complain, post *****, pee in the wind, and **** in the pool until they go away.
**** THEM
If they had the ****ing ***** to PRODUCE what they claim then by all means there wouldnt be a damn issue here, but since they have a rather LONG history OF NOT KNOWING WTF THEY ARE DOING, **** them expose them for the ****ing *********** they are. Bill seems to be well liked, i just feel sorry for the chap as it seems to me he is being abuse by that **** face chris. Oh what dont know who the **** i am chris? maybe if you stoped whacking it to your own image in the mirror and pulled your head out of your own *** you would know who the **** i am.
Bill words of advice GET A JOB WITH ANOTHER TUNER, ONE WHO WONT USE YOU FOR ALL YOU ARE WORTH.
You are ispeed bill, at least the only credible part of it, i suggest you take what is left of your credibilty and run with it, run like forest, hell run past forest gump that ***** has a limp now anyways.
love dre
oh and chris if you got funk i can chip in on half a jetblue fare to the east coast so i can kick you in your teeth and tell you everything i said here in person.
Im dead serious about what i say here, you ****ed with several of my buddies cars, not knowing wtf you are doing. You took their money, and you gave a few the cold sholder when they had issues with your ****ty *** work. You have acted as if you are special (and no doubt you are, but for the all the wrong reasons) and above everyone else in this community. DONT FORGET WE ARE THE ONES WHO EMPOWERED YOU TO CHEAT US OUT OF OUR MONEY. And guess what bud, word is getting out, and we now have the power to take that **** all back from you.
So i suggest you take a long look at the next park you drive past and ask your self this.
I wonder how many miles of trail i will have to walk before i make Senior Trail Cleaner.
03-10-2005, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mcowger
Holy cow dude. Thats was completely uncalled for. Its one thing to have legitimate complaints about I-Speed's ability to tune a car, but there's no need to swear up one side and down the other and claiming they ********** to their own voice.
I know nothing about I-Speeds ability, but really, get a hold of yourself.
I know nothing about I-Speeds ability, but really, get a hold of yourself.
wrong this is uncalled for
now stfu, i have serious issues with them, and since this thread is about people who have issues with them i am voicing my ****ing opinnions if you dont like it ****ing ignore it.
03-10-2005, 08:44 PM
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Oh and if the mods disagree with me, feel free to delete my ****. I have said my ****ing peice and if they have any issues with its accuracy i will be more then happy to stand by my words.
03-10-2005, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mcowger
Holy cow dude. Thats was completely uncalled for. Its one thing to have legitimate complaints about I-Speed's ability to tune a car, but there's no need to swear up one side and down the other and claiming they ********** to their own voice.
I know nothing about I-Speeds ability, but really, get a hold of yourself.
I know nothing about I-Speeds ability, but really, get a hold of yourself.
03-10-2005, 08:55 PM
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that and i am hung like a mutant rino with a bad viagra habit.
all kidding aside i think No-Speeds (i will call them this from now on) behavior and performance pattern is utter ****. They should be ashamed of themselves and if they had any morsel of respect for their customers, selves, and business they should realy just sack up the 300 dollars and buy a ****ing wideband. Oh and bill im serious man so cal is full of other shops man i know you are cool as hell and love tuning, might as well be with a shop that gives two cents about you and wants to furthur your abilities. When was the last time you attended any sort of formal EFI training on the companies bill?
Just curious, dont get screwed man..
all kidding aside i think No-Speeds (i will call them this from now on) behavior and performance pattern is utter ****. They should be ashamed of themselves and if they had any morsel of respect for their customers, selves, and business they should realy just sack up the 300 dollars and buy a ****ing wideband. Oh and bill im serious man so cal is full of other shops man i know you are cool as hell and love tuning, might as well be with a shop that gives two cents about you and wants to furthur your abilities. When was the last time you attended any sort of formal EFI training on the companies bill?
Just curious, dont get screwed man..
03-10-2005, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
**** it man im tired of hearing about people getting ****ed, this is my damn community, my damn buddies who keep getting ****ed over and over again.
****em you **** with me, my freinds, my family, i will come the **** after you.
Plain and ****ing simple.
Hit em where it hurts i say, since i dont feel like going to jail i wont handle my self in the ways i used to, so i will just sit here in the intraweb and *****, moan, gripe, cry, harass, complain, post *****, pee in the wind, and **** in the pool until they go away.
**** THEM
If they had the ****ing ***** to PRODUCE what they claim then by all means there wouldnt be a damn issue here, but since they have a rather LONG history OF NOT KNOWING WTF THEY ARE DOING, **** them expose them for the ****ing *********** they are. Bill seems to be well liked, i just feel sorry for the chap as it seems to me he is being abuse by that **** face chris. Oh what dont know who the **** i am chris? maybe if you stoped whacking it to your own image in the mirror and pulled your head out of your own *** you would know who the **** i am.
Bill words of advice GET A JOB WITH ANOTHER TUNER, ONE WHO WONT USE YOU FOR ALL YOU ARE WORTH.
You are ispeed bill, at least the only credible part of it, i suggest you take what is left of your credibilty and run with it, run like forest, hell run past forest gump that ***** has a limp now anyways.
love dre
oh and chris if you got funk i can chip in on half a jetblue fare to the east coast so i can kick you in your teeth and tell you everything i said here in person.
Im dead serious about what i say here, you ****ed with several of my buddies cars, not knowing wtf you are doing. You took their money, and you gave a few the cold sholder when they had issues with your ****ty *** work. You have acted as if you are special (and no doubt you are, but for the all the wrong reasons) and above everyone else in this community. DONT FORGET WE ARE THE ONES WHO EMPOWERED YOU TO CHEAT US OUT OF OUR MONEY. And guess what bud, word is getting out, and we now have the power to take that **** all back from you.
So i suggest you take a long look at the next park you drive past and ask your self this.
I wonder how many miles of trail i will have to walk before i make Senior Trail Cleaner.
****em you **** with me, my freinds, my family, i will come the **** after you.
Plain and ****ing simple.
Hit em where it hurts i say, since i dont feel like going to jail i wont handle my self in the ways i used to, so i will just sit here in the intraweb and *****, moan, gripe, cry, harass, complain, post *****, pee in the wind, and **** in the pool until they go away.
**** THEM
If they had the ****ing ***** to PRODUCE what they claim then by all means there wouldnt be a damn issue here, but since they have a rather LONG history OF NOT KNOWING WTF THEY ARE DOING, **** them expose them for the ****ing *********** they are. Bill seems to be well liked, i just feel sorry for the chap as it seems to me he is being abuse by that **** face chris. Oh what dont know who the **** i am chris? maybe if you stoped whacking it to your own image in the mirror and pulled your head out of your own *** you would know who the **** i am.
Bill words of advice GET A JOB WITH ANOTHER TUNER, ONE WHO WONT USE YOU FOR ALL YOU ARE WORTH.
You are ispeed bill, at least the only credible part of it, i suggest you take what is left of your credibilty and run with it, run like forest, hell run past forest gump that ***** has a limp now anyways.
love dre
oh and chris if you got funk i can chip in on half a jetblue fare to the east coast so i can kick you in your teeth and tell you everything i said here in person.
Im dead serious about what i say here, you ****ed with several of my buddies cars, not knowing wtf you are doing. You took their money, and you gave a few the cold sholder when they had issues with your ****ty *** work. You have acted as if you are special (and no doubt you are, but for the all the wrong reasons) and above everyone else in this community. DONT FORGET WE ARE THE ONES WHO EMPOWERED YOU TO CHEAT US OUT OF OUR MONEY. And guess what bud, word is getting out, and we now have the power to take that **** all back from you.
So i suggest you take a long look at the next park you drive past and ask your self this.
I wonder how many miles of trail i will have to walk before i make Senior Trail Cleaner.
Dre, we share the same hate towards Chris. He is the devil.
So I created a saying... "All speed is better than I-speed".