The truth about i-speed..."back to the bay..."
03-15-2005, 07:11 PM
#154
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Truth is, in the bay area/California, Shiv is the only truely TENERED tuner. Meaning, he's got several YEARS under his belt.
Bill and Mike (at least, i think mike still considers himself to be a student) are students in Tuning.
As with all subjects, some students are better than others. While Mike and Bill tune more and more, they will gain experience. Mike I know, personally, to have hit books like mad. He was studying, and studying and studying. He was going to seminars on softwares so that he could expand his understanding. His own car was the gueani pig, before anyone else's car. He would be considered an A student, one that has shown his very awesome skill.
Bill I think is also good. However, ATP is not greatest tool. Chris's $$$ quest wasn't the great either, and I'm sure that pushed Bill to get things done. He's like a B student, only because the tools were wrong, and his "boss" made some pretty ****ed up decisions.
I like Bill. I wish he would see how awful Chris is at managing that business.
-Gagan
Bill and Mike (at least, i think mike still considers himself to be a student) are students in Tuning.
As with all subjects, some students are better than others. While Mike and Bill tune more and more, they will gain experience. Mike I know, personally, to have hit books like mad. He was studying, and studying and studying. He was going to seminars on softwares so that he could expand his understanding. His own car was the gueani pig, before anyone else's car. He would be considered an A student, one that has shown his very awesome skill.
Bill I think is also good. However, ATP is not greatest tool. Chris's $$$ quest wasn't the great either, and I'm sure that pushed Bill to get things done. He's like a B student, only because the tools were wrong, and his "boss" made some pretty ****ed up decisions.
I like Bill. I wish he would see how awful Chris is at managing that business.
-Gagan
03-15-2005, 11:10 PM
#155
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
actually, i suggested this long before you did, TIAboy
so TIA biach
-Gagan
so TIA biach
-Gagan
https://www.i-club.com/forums/thread-lock-up-84/truth-about-i-speed-92062/
The copy we are posting in right now is supposed to be the socal copy...I have no idea why it was moved back to the bay area..
TIA
03-17-2005, 08:32 AM
#157
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Truth is, in the bay area/California, Shiv is the only truely TENERED tuner. Meaning, he's got several YEARS under his belt.
Bill and Mike (at least, i think mike still considers himself to be a student) are students in Tuning.
As with all subjects, some students are better than others. While Mike and Bill tune more and more, they will gain experience. Mike I know, personally, to have hit books like mad. He was studying, and studying and studying. He was going to seminars on softwares so that he could expand his understanding. His own car was the gueani pig, before anyone else's car. He would be considered an A student, one that has shown his very awesome skill.
Bill I think is also good. However, ATP is not greatest tool. Chris's $$$ quest wasn't the great either, and I'm sure that pushed Bill to get things done. He's like a B student, only because the tools were wrong, and his "boss" made some pretty ****ed up decisions.
I like Bill. I wish he would see how awful Chris is at managing that business.
-Gagan
Bill and Mike (at least, i think mike still considers himself to be a student) are students in Tuning.
As with all subjects, some students are better than others. While Mike and Bill tune more and more, they will gain experience. Mike I know, personally, to have hit books like mad. He was studying, and studying and studying. He was going to seminars on softwares so that he could expand his understanding. His own car was the gueani pig, before anyone else's car. He would be considered an A student, one that has shown his very awesome skill.
Bill I think is also good. However, ATP is not greatest tool. Chris's $$$ quest wasn't the great either, and I'm sure that pushed Bill to get things done. He's like a B student, only because the tools were wrong, and his "boss" made some pretty ****ed up decisions.
I like Bill. I wish he would see how awful Chris is at managing that business.
-Gagan
Today, Bill also has the best tools that money can buy. You seem to be stuck in the distant past.
Quirt Crawford
03-17-2005, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
fact of the matter is this
every single i speed tuned car that has gone to any other tuner has had SERIOUS AFR issues. To the point of SEVERAL people having motors BLOW THE **** UP on them.
If that isnt a sign of how ****ty they tune then i dont know what is.
BUYER BEWARE
every single i speed tuned car that has gone to any other tuner has had SERIOUS AFR issues. To the point of SEVERAL people having motors BLOW THE **** UP on them.
If that isnt a sign of how ****ty they tune then i dont know what is.
BUYER BEWARE
I will pay you for every one that you can list that is factual, and you will pay me for the ones that are made up !!
So start listing
Quirt Crawford
03-17-2005, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 02VishnuWRX
The way I see it, I-speed is saying that everyone is saying stuff about them and thinking things without even hearing their side.... so let's hear it. If all these people were accusing me of this and that, I'd want to defend myself.
I want to hear I-Speed's side of blowing 4 of SD's motors
I want to hear I-Speed's side of blowing 4 of SD's motors
The same for you, List the four blown motors, then get out your wallet !
Quirt Crawford
03-17-2005, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by KurleeDaddeeWRX
I guess I should chime in on this thread as well.
I dealt with I-Speed (Bill, Chris and Andy) quite often and I have nothing but good things to say about them and their work. They were always cool to me and showed respect towards me every time I ran into them.
I spent quite a bit of money on tuning with my WRX with I-Speed. First it was the UTEC knocking all the time. It seemed as though Bill tried his hardest to tune it, but there weren't other tuners that I trusted with my car at that time. Then I got their EcuTek and never had a problem, although I did question the whp for my setup. But whatever.
My experience dealing with I-Speed was 1,000,000 times better than dealing with Shiv, that's for sure.
Kurlee Daddee
(THE ORIGINAL)
I dealt with I-Speed (Bill, Chris and Andy) quite often and I have nothing but good things to say about them and their work. They were always cool to me and showed respect towards me every time I ran into them.
I spent quite a bit of money on tuning with my WRX with I-Speed. First it was the UTEC knocking all the time. It seemed as though Bill tried his hardest to tune it, but there weren't other tuners that I trusted with my car at that time. Then I got their EcuTek and never had a problem, although I did question the whp for my setup. But whatever.
My experience dealing with I-Speed was 1,000,000 times better than dealing with Shiv, that's for sure.
Kurlee Daddee
(THE ORIGINAL)
Quirt
03-17-2005, 08:59 AM
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[QUOTE=1WRXNFX]Never really delt with I-Speed, though i have herd horror stories from my friends about Bill and his LEAN AS HELL Tunes. My buddy blew 2 coilpacks with there tunes, i told him to not take it back to them the first time he blew one, but he opted to Let bill tune his WRX again...poor choice.
A blown coil pack from from to lean of a fuel mixture ? Thanks for the information, I always wondered what caused that.
Quirt Crawford
A blown coil pack from from to lean of a fuel mixture ? Thanks for the information, I always wondered what caused that.
Quirt Crawford
03-17-2005, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Project Worx
Although I had mentioned, my tunning experience wasnt the greatest with I-speed and I was pretty dissapointed, I don't wan't to take anything away from how good they install, cause I have never had a problem with them as far as how they charged me the best prices, and got the job done. I just feel they lacked the proper tools and knowledge for tunning. But can't take anything way from Bill cause this guy worked hard to tune to his best capability, and he's a very nice hard working guy and answers all your questions, only if he had a Y band =/
Quirt Crawford
03-17-2005, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by British Banger
First off I am not tuning expert, but I would imagine that there are more factors than the AFR to consider in the "safety" of a tune. I really don't know though, so I'm not going to talk about it too much.
For what it's worth my expiriences with I-Speed/Chris have all been good. In case you don't know I bought Chris' old outback, and Chris bought my old car. He did me many favors after the purchase, including letting me borrow my old car for a full weekend 4 months after we switched. I don't know many other people that would do that. When my car broke down(NOT tuning/I-speed related) in Jackson at night, I was on the phone with chris for around 3 hours (on and off) trying to fix it. Lol, and I could tell that he was in a nighclub/bar cause I could here music and people in the background. THey lent me a set of brake pads for a weekend, while mine were getting shipped in, and gave me a set of rear brake pads for free. All of those times I needed work done on my car I only gave them a few days notice, and they always managed to fit me in. Not only that but I have given chris and bill numerous phone calls with all of the questions I could possibly think of regarding subaru's. I know there are some other favors they did for me that I can't recall right now.
Chris has a strong personality, I'm sure that's why some don't get along with him. Get two people together, both with strong personalities and it can be pretty hard for them to get along. When I first met Chris, I would just listen to what he had to say, which made me realize that he is a knowledgable person. Bill has always been cool, and also answers all of the questions I have had for him, on top of being very reliable. Bill showed me how to change my own brake pads knowing full well that I wouldn't be coming back again to have them change em. I have not witnessed anything that would make me question his tuning ability either, but like I said before I am not even going there because tuning is an artform that I haven't the slightest clue about. Chris and Bill are cool with me, even if Bill never gave me a ride in his car!!
Well that's all I have to say for now, this thread needed a bit of balance
James
For what it's worth my expiriences with I-Speed/Chris have all been good. In case you don't know I bought Chris' old outback, and Chris bought my old car. He did me many favors after the purchase, including letting me borrow my old car for a full weekend 4 months after we switched. I don't know many other people that would do that. When my car broke down(NOT tuning/I-speed related) in Jackson at night, I was on the phone with chris for around 3 hours (on and off) trying to fix it. Lol, and I could tell that he was in a nighclub/bar cause I could here music and people in the background. THey lent me a set of brake pads for a weekend, while mine were getting shipped in, and gave me a set of rear brake pads for free. All of those times I needed work done on my car I only gave them a few days notice, and they always managed to fit me in. Not only that but I have given chris and bill numerous phone calls with all of the questions I could possibly think of regarding subaru's. I know there are some other favors they did for me that I can't recall right now.
Chris has a strong personality, I'm sure that's why some don't get along with him. Get two people together, both with strong personalities and it can be pretty hard for them to get along. When I first met Chris, I would just listen to what he had to say, which made me realize that he is a knowledgable person. Bill has always been cool, and also answers all of the questions I have had for him, on top of being very reliable. Bill showed me how to change my own brake pads knowing full well that I wouldn't be coming back again to have them change em. I have not witnessed anything that would make me question his tuning ability either, but like I said before I am not even going there because tuning is an artform that I haven't the slightest clue about. Chris and Bill are cool with me, even if Bill never gave me a ride in his car!!
Well that's all I have to say for now, this thread needed a bit of balance
James
Quirt Crawford