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Old 10-18-2009 | 08:07 PM
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Still want to get a flu-shot?

Think again...

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Old 10-18-2009 | 08:17 PM
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Exaggerated, sensationalized story. Literally one in a million.

I don't agree with flu shots, but this shouldn't be a concern for the average person.
Old 10-18-2009 | 08:20 PM
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Old 10-18-2009 | 08:20 PM
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Death due to influenza in the US is about 2000 a year. Death due to the vaccine is zero. Approximately 5 people in the US will develop a serious condition due to getting the influenza vaccine.

5 serious illnesses versus 2000 dead? I think the vaccine still wins.

white paper with data, not my original source, but close enough:
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/co...full/163/2/181

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Old 10-18-2009 | 08:31 PM
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hahaha I just felt it sucked it have that happen. Doubt we'll see more stories like this anytime soon.
Old 10-18-2009 | 08:33 PM
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hahaha I just felt it sucked it have that happen. Doubt we'll see more stories like this anytime soon.
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Old 10-18-2009 | 08:35 PM
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unofficially the swine flu turns your immune system against you. If you somehow get the swine flu after getting the vaccine, the chances of you dying are higher since your immune system is stronger and will evidently backfire and have a higher chance of killing you.
Old 10-18-2009 | 09:20 PM
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to soon?

Old 10-18-2009 | 09:37 PM
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to soon?

nope, just in time.
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Old 10-18-2009 | 09:41 PM
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unofficially the swine flu turns your immune system against you. If you somehow get the swine flu after getting the vaccine, the chances of you dying are higher since your immune system is stronger and will evidently backfire and have a higher chance of killing you.
Since when did you become a Pathologist? That doesn't make any sense, the H1N1 is a viral strand of the flu, just like all of the other ones, with a slightly different composition. As with all vaccines, a purified strain is introduced and the body builds humoral immunity and learns to produce the proper antigens which produce the antibodies to fight the infection. Your body then learns and gains the capability to fight it off.

By being stronger how does it back fire and have a higher chance of killing you, when it has the ability to recognize and how to fight the virus?

I think you may be referring to the immune response from allergens, in which the body can respond on a large scale by releasing mast cells/ granulocytes which have a lot of negative effects and can lead to death.

The only other thing that "turns your immune system against you" are auto immune diseases such as HIV, AIDS, Lupus, etc..
Old 10-18-2009 | 09:46 PM
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Just make sure they are shooting you up with h1n1 vaccine and not AIDS.

*the more you know*
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Originally Posted by code3suby
Since when did you become a Pathologist? That doesn't make any sense, the H1N1 is a viral strand of the flu, just like all of the other ones, with a slightly different composition. As with all vaccines, a purified strain is introduced and the body builds humoral immunity and learns to produce the proper antigens which produce the antibodies to fight the infection. Your body then learns and gains the capability to fight it off.

By being stronger how does it back fire and have a higher chance of killing you, when it has the ability to recognize and how to fight the virus?

I think you may be referring to the immune response from allergens, in which the body can respond on a large scale by releasing mast cells/ granulocytes which have a lot of negative effects and can lead to death.

The only other thing that "turns your immune system against you" are auto immune diseases such as HIV, AIDS, Lupus, etc..
One of the theories of this virus attacking young adults/parents more than children/seniors is the fact I stated above. Deaths happen to those with the better immune systems, doesn't target those with lower immunal systems for some weird reason.

In any case, I'm not taking the shot especially since I don't trust much of the US Government and their theories on why things are bad.

They screwed up a lot of r&n with drugs they put out, and they like to lie a lot.

IE weed makes you aggressive.
Old 10-19-2009 | 12:17 AM
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I think you might be referring to cytokine storm which is where the body basically over reacts. It doesn't make the body fight it's self, it just can't handle some of the side affects of the large scale attacks.

That being said, no one's been able to prove that the cytokine storm is actually triggered by the H1N1 virus or the vaccine, its just a theory as you stated.
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Originally Posted by cracker1252
to soon?

nope. Might be fun to jump on when the phone rings. oooooh... too soon?
Old 10-19-2009 | 11:24 AM
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I used to get the flu ever single friggin year of my life until about 4-5 years ago when I started getting flu shots, and I haven't had the flu since! That's not to say I haven't felt like I had the flu from hangovers or food poisoning,



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