SPACE, the final frontier. A snapshot of our insignificance, a total mind-screw.

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Old 07-04-2009 | 05:40 PM
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Thumbs up SPACE, the final frontier. A snapshot of our insignificance, a total mind-screw.

This picture was posted by Krinkov in the greatest picture ever thread, it's such a great photo that it deserves it's own thread. Pictures like these make me question the religious fanatics that think we are alone in our universe. For someone to think that we're alone amongst the vastness of our universe is very close minded and ignorant. How can someone possibly think that humans are so significant with the knowledge of astronomy and current day sciences? It just doesn't make sense to me.


If you have astronomical pictures you'd like to share with us in this thread, PLEASE post them up!

Behold! A very small chunk of our universe, and our insignificant solar system.


Old 07-04-2009 | 06:22 PM
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Try to wrap your head around the vastness of what we're floating around in.
Old 07-04-2009 | 08:18 PM
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I submit that time is the final frontier. space is okay and all, but time can be infite.

"To infinity and beyond!"
Old 07-04-2009 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by STiForFun
I submit that time is the final frontier. space is okay and all, but time can be infite.

"To infinity and beyond!"
They go hand in hand.

For all we know, space IS infinite. It's hard for humans to wrap their minds around the concept of infinity. Our understanding of the world is that things have a beginning and an end, that includes EVERYTHING, for something to not have a beginning or an end is beyond our comprehension.

How can something not have an end? It obviously exists, and had to have started somewhere at sometime, so how can it not end? That's how our minds operate which is why it's so difficult for us to understand the concept of no end.

For all we know, there are infinite things that literally do not have an end, like space... Does it end somewhere? What existed before the big bang? Did the big bang even happen? If the universe is in fact infinite, how? How does it not have an end? We have a very strict set of rules in which we live by, those rules are common sense and they dictate how we think... Those rules were created by us, and as flawless as we think they are, they are not. We only have a very minute slice of space and time that we can observe, leaving so much yet to be explored, and this photograph is a great example of how much knowledge we lack of our universe.

Look at that huge galaxy in the pic for example... It's soooooo huge that it defies our laws of physics, which further proves that we're not perfect, nor do we understand everything.

I know we like to think we're important, significant, and that we have a role to play in the life of the universe, but modern science proves otherwise. As hard as that is to hear, or believe, it's true, and science has a lot more leverage in terms of credibility then any religion does.

Back to the concept of infinity, it's crazy to think about something that exists and has always existed with no possible end.
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Those are some impressive pictures!!!

But let's talk about this:

...Pictures like these make me question the religious fanatics that think we are alone in our universe. For someone to think that we're alone amongst the vastness of our universe is very close minded and ignorant. How can someone possibly think that humans are so significant with the knowledge of astronomy and current day sciences? It just doesn't make sense to me.
Those pictures make me question things as well.

Like, if there was a big bang where did the matter come from?

If evolution is true and man evolved from boiling primordial mud, then how did inorganic matter become organic?

Those are two questions that no BB Evolutionist can answer, yet they are the foundation for the Secular Humanism world view. This world view, not scientific fact (meaning that it can't be reproduced, tested, and observed) is being taught as fact in our schools, when it is not fact but merely a world view. That doesn't make sense...

The Bible tells us that God created the Sun, Moon, and Stars on day 4 of creation for the following reasons:

Genesis 1:14-19

14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
We, the Earth, our Sun, Moon, Solar System, Galaxy, etc. aren't insignificant. We were made by the Creator of everything and us in His image
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Originally Posted by medicSTi
Those are some impressive pictures!!!

But let's talk about this:



Those pictures make me question things as well.

Like, if there was a big bang where did the matter come from?
I'm not an astrophysicist, and I may have misremembered something, but as I recall, there was a primordial mass - and LOTS of energy, this is the idea, and that energy can be converted to mass and mass to energy. Big bang, release of LOTS of energy caused a chain reaction in the primordial mass and that energy converted to matter, focused around the primordial mass. Does that make sense?

This is the old definition of the big bang, it may be more refined now, but that is how I learned it in college, eons ago.
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Don't ruin something as awesome as space discussion with jeebus.

Keep your god out of my big bangs.
Old 07-05-2009 | 12:06 AM
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Hhahah, w3rd. I'll ask a mod to remove any religious arguments if any arise.

Feel free to post up any more space stuff!



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