Lurk

iTrader: (10)

Bulls usually don't repeatedly miss their targets like how this guy did though.

VRT MBasile

iTrader: (17)

Interesting, road rage is typically provoked, especially when it escalates to gunfire. Funny how they don't get into that.

Not sure how else I feel about the situation apart from that.

Lboogie

iTrader: (5)

Some of us have ambitions to be in law enforcement, so please....the next time you want to make a blind generalization...leave me out of it

Its not about liberal Vs conservative....its about professional accountability.

Here's a parallel situation; your childs' 2nd grade teacher is having a "bad day" and punches your child because the kid was being annoying. What do you do then hotshot, what do you dooooo?

saqwarrior

Another assumption; no, I'm not. But if it makes you feel better to believe that, go for it.

saqwarrior

I never said all cops were corrupt. However, it is a well-known fact that police department corruption and brutality is a significant problem in urban centers.

saqwarrior

I'm not, but I choose to take that as a compliment.

Agreed.

saqwarrior

Lacking a police force is not necessarily a requirement of an anarchist state.

The only thing that I wrote that could have been "offensive" was referring to the police officer as a "pig," and if anyone on this forum is such a shrinking violet that they find that offensive then perhaps they need to toughen up a bit.

nokio

Wait this is all bull**** you guys are getting OT

What if I was in the officers position and had a firearm in my vehicle and shot it at another motorist, whether it be because of road rage or me being fearful for my life.
What do you think would happen to me not being an officer?
What charges would I face?

and why the hell is this cop, who lives and breaths the law not being held accountable to it like I most certainly would? How is firing a weapon in traffic at any point in time in the best interest of the people he is sworn to serve and protect?

There are so many holes in this story so far it is ridiculous. For instance, how was the driver of the truck provoked into brandishing a firearm on the GG bridge?

I think it boils down to people assuming the officer did something wrong because it is a way to keep police officer's power in check. You have to admit that being a police officer is a not only a honorable thing to do but it is a privilege to have that many people trusting you to do your job and do it lawfully. Yet with that trust, we bestow upon them certain rights that the average civilian does not have. These rights are sometimes abused and it's that abuse of power is what leads people to have a negative disposition about those types of police officers. The police officers that do bend the rules are what I call pigs* and are what I think saqwarrior was getting at with his earlier comment. Protect and Serve.

* http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pigs

OT: Overbear you need to get a grip bro, no one wants to hear your story and how cool you felt when a cop said that to you, this isn't about you. This also isn't about political preference, yet you continue to mention liberals in a negative manner. Oh and Wow you didn't even read what saqwarrior wrote and then you responded with that? Are you sure you should own a gun? jk I'm sure there are crazier ones than you, like Brucelee

Overbear

Ok, proof please. If you are going to make a bold direct statement like that, you need to back your words up with science and fact, so I am calling you out on it. Lets see some data on this, I want to see reliable sources.

Kid, and I call you that because its very clear to me your not quite an adult yet in your thinking or social growth. Let me help you out with some facts...

1)There are only 836,787 sworn LEO's in the US at any given time. Think about that, we have a population of 301,139,947 as of '07. That means there is one officer per 360(rounded up) Americans. You want to talk about out numbered.(1)

2)57 officers lost their lives in the line of duty in just 2007 alone.(2)

3)Only XXX officers of the law faced criminal charges in 2007 (Still researching this one, will fill in data once I have it. However it appears so far that the FBI nor the DOJ track such a number. That leads me to believe it is so small as to be negligible. )(3)


(1)http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/lawenf.htm
(2)http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/killed/2007/f...slykilled.html
(3)Unknown

saqwarrior

How's USA Today? Here's an excerpt from an article titled "Police brutality cases on rise since 9/11":
Here's an excerpt from an interesting essay titled "Analysis of Police Corruption":
Yes, clearly I have maturity issues, even though I'm not the one slinging around ad hominem attacks, assumptions and being hyper-aggressive.

I fail to see the relevance to the discussion. As far as I'm concerned, that highly misleading ratio that you so cavalierly came up with is indicative of a much more serious problem. Any society that has to rely on force to insure public safety and rule of law is doomed to collapse in on itself. History has shown this to be true with previous empires; see the Roman Empire as an example.

Oh yes, surely it's negligible--that must be why every major urban police department has entire departments dedicated to rooting out and prosecuting police corruption, also known as "Internal Affairs" sections.

Also, the importance of something is not necessarily tied to the quantity of a thing; police corruption may be statistically low in rural and suburban areas, but the highly publicized events that occur in metropolitan areas is enough to have cast an indelible mark on the public conscious and how they view law enforcement.

This whole time you've been arguing you haven't even bothered to ask why I wrote what I did; as a matter of fact, you haven't sought any kind of clarification whatsoever. Naturally you avoid doing so because you don't actually seek to understand other peoples' positions, you just want to be RIGHT.

You speak of my emotional and "social" maturity, whatever that means, and that's fine; you've quite clearly illustrated to me and this forum the type of person you are. I suggest you look in a mirror sometime and examine your own actions, starting with why you have such a problem dealing with anyone who has a different opinion than you.

Having said that, since you are incapable of having a civil, mature discussion exchanging ideas and sharing opinions, I won't respond to you further on this topic unless you change your tone. I hope you've had a merry Christmas and I wish you well in the new year.

saqwarrior

I must say that I'm shocked that someone finally made that connection. Thank you.

I don't think he has read anything I've written with any intent other than to continue to fling insults and argue.