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Old 12-13-2004, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by doughboy
Circumstantial evidence...sure...but there are a lot of coincidences in this case.

The fact that they caught him in Mexico with cash and a "new" beard doesn't help his case any either.

I agree with that our government has gotten way too liberal.
How can you put someone to death on circumstantial evidence? I'm for the death penalty, but we need to fix our judicial system. OJ gets off and Scott Peterson is put to death? I'm not saying he's not guilty, but there has to be better case made to put him to death other than popular opinion.
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IFrom the evidence I've heard about...and I watched the law channel for hours while out on my knee surgery......all circumstantial. Lots of it...but still....all circumstantial. No hard proof. No blood. No dna. No direct attachment to the body.
I agree. I hope that the judge does not go with the jury's recommendation of the death penalty during sentencing for this reason. It seems like a lot of wasted money. Lock him up and throw away the key. I personally think the guy will live MUCH longer on death row than he will in the general prison population.
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Originally Posted by doughboy
The fact that they caught him in Mexico with cash and a "new" beard doesn't help his case any either.

he was caught GETTING READY to cross the border with $10k, his brother's ID and new hair color...
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Originally Posted by doughboy
I agree with that our government has gotten way too liberal.

This I don't understand...over the past decade or so, CA has gotten more conservative not more liberal. Look at our reps and such. Oh...and if you didn't realize...Arnold is a republican...
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Originally Posted by ldivinag
he was caught GETTING READY to cross the border with $10k, his brother's ID and new hair color...

Was there any proof that we was planning to cross the border?

I think this whole country has gotten more Republican. Not that I hate Republicans more, I hate Democrats equally.
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The fact that they caught him in Mexico with cash and a "new" beard doesn't help his case any either.
When I first heard this (and i thought it was San Diego, btw), I thought it was a case of being afriad of being framed by the police because the DA needed *someone*. It seems more like the DA took so long because they were desperate, not as though they just "wanted to be sure". To be "sure" you have to have more than circumstantial evidence. So, yeah, when I first heard this, I thought he was just looking for time to figure out how to not get thrown in jail before he could try to prove himself.

My opinion now? I think he did it. BUT EVEN if on principal, a person should not be given death on circumstanial evidence. The problem, obviously, with capital punishment is that mistakes are made. IF someone was smart enough (in this case, I really think "dumb enough" and "lucky enough" is the truth) to only have circumstantial evidence remaining after the crime, more power to them to get life in prison. (Boy that sounds screwy). But you have to make a compromise for the high potential of human error.

I'd rather let 100 murderers rot in prison for life than sanction the state to murder one innocent person who was wrongly conviceted. I realize in our type of system some lose when they should win. But to be wrongly put to death offers no justice to anyone... just a frightenly false sense of satisfying revenge. Its not a matter of being an advocate or not for the death penalty... its just thinking "What if I was wrongly convicted?". A terribly frightening thought.

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Stop watching so much CSI. This is the best they can do with the evidence they have today.
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Stop watching so much CSI. This is the best they can do with the evidence they have today.
"I need that DNA analysis back by this afternoon" bwhahahaahhaahhaa
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Keep in mind there are a good number of folks on death row who've been freed after the DNA proved they didn't do da crime.
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I totally agree with OneManArmy. Most of the people I've talked to have similar feelings about this case. I wonder where those "Hang Him! Hang Him!" people live.

He's most likely the murderer, but convicted and moreover death penalty with those evidence!? Come on...

Bottom line is, don't get sued in the US, because your faith will be judged by a bunch of monkeys...
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Give him death by bubba. Just let him take a shower with no guards around. Repeat until dead...

We need to get with the program. I travel to malaysia regularly. Drug trafficing and other major offenses are pushishable by death, do you think they have a crime problem like here? Nope. If you are tried and your punishment is deemed death you are guaranteed to die within 24 hours. The amount of money we waste sending these crims to summer camp, and letting them appeal and appeal, is a complete crock. At least make jail like jail, they don't need a nutritionist, or TV, or books, or anything. If you are stupid enough to do the crime then you'd better be prepared to do the time. I'm sick of being forced to pay for other mistakes. On average the death penalty costs us tax payers about $2.3 million to put one of these tards up on death row over the length of their stay. Seeing as we have about 650 waiting on death row, don't you think california has better things to $1.5 billion?
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Originally Posted by illusion
Give him death by bubba. Just let him take a shower with no guards around. Repeat until dead...

We need to get with the program. I travel to malaysia regularly. Drug trafficing and other major offenses are pushishable by death, do you think they have a crime problem like here? Nope. If you are tried and your punishment is deemed death you are guaranteed to die within 24 hours. The amount of money we waste sending these crims to summer camp, and letting them appeal and appeal, is a complete crock. At least make jail like jail, they don't need a nutritionist, or TV, or books, or anything. If you are stupid enough to do the crime then you'd better be prepared to do the time. I'm sick of being forced to pay for other mistakes. On average the death penalty costs us tax payers about $2.3 million to put one of these tards up on death row over the length of their stay. Seeing as we have about 650 waiting on death row, don't you think california has better things to $1.5 billion?
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Originally Posted by ldivinag
he was caught GETTING READY to cross the border with $10k, his brother's ID and new hair color...
actually, he was caught in san diego...with cash...PLAYING GOLF.

this is another thing that can be rationally and easily explained.

Scott had rediculous amount of media surrounding his home and every place he would possibly go. He had to stop working. He was being followed by police, detectives, crazies with cameras as well.

If I was the number one suspect in a murder case and was the target of so much attention I'd do one of two things.

Me being a bit more rational would talk to the police. Tell them where I will be, possibly ask them to hide me. And disapear to everyone else.

Him being scared the police were targeting him and not giving him a fair shot at being innocent he panicked and did the second thing I would do.

Change my appearance and go on a vacation. If he really was going to leave the country, I think he would have go to mexico before playing golf. There are plenty of decent courses in Mexico he could have played. http://www.worldgolf.com/golf-destinations/mexico/

he had enough cash to do what he needed to do for a while. More than enough and that's reasonable. I mean you don't want to use credit cards if you don't want to be found until you're ready to be found. And what would you expect him to do. Watch TV, jack off and twiddle his thumbs all day. Sorry...under a lot of stress. Play some freaking golf. I'd do the same ****.

Does it make him look bad. Makes him look terrible because of the way the media presented it. Public opinion can be rediculously shaped just by the way words are presented. It's rediculous. Gulf war...bush was a hero because we kicked so much *** and lost few lives. New bush. new war. new emphasis. New hatred. We didn't have any more right to be there in the gulf war than we do now.

on top of that.

i die my hair and change my beard constantly. i went through a period where my color or style was changed every 3 weeks. and my facial hair at least once a month or two.

Just saying....ANOTHER part of the prosicutions case that you can punch holes in EASILY> like most of their case.
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Originally Posted by illusion
We need to get with the program. I travel to malaysia regularly. Drug trafficing and other major offenses are pushishable by death, do you think they have a crime problem like here? Nope.

Hah, little do you know. The island of Gaya (just a mile or so Kota Kinabalua) is a major SEA waystation for drugs. Its also the site of 3 of KK's public schools. Just one of many islands around Saba and other parts of Borneo that are used for trafficking. There's drugs (afaik) in KL and Ipoh too. The problem isn't as big in the general population because of Islam. But when it comes to money, even Islam doesn't get in the way. The police in Malaysia are so poorly paid that they have to be really into their job to not regularly receive bribes. Drugs flow through Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos and Myanmar .... not quite like Afghanistian these days (heh), but its a problem and violent crime comes with it.

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