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Old 07-04-2009, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
I didn't know quitting was one of her Christian morals.
That is all.

...your misunderstanding above seems consistent with your misunderstanding of the meaning of my statement.

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Old 07-04-2009, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by slow04wrx
Uh I don't need to be from Alaska to read about how she fired the dude illegally it was already a conflict of interest (any halfway intelligent politician would have realized they should avoid stepping in the ****). Then she continued to ignore subpoenas, and basically say **** you to the government. She shafted Alaska with many monetary projects as well. And also yea I watched a documentary, particularly interesting part was where they went to the town where Palin can SEE RUSSIA, but they all said it was a total cop out lie she had never been there and didn't do **** for the community. Fortunately Palin contradicts herself, and sets herself up to look like a total moron so I don't have to be in Alaska to know that.

Reminds me of that song...................open your eyes..........open your eyezzzzzzz


honestly this isn't a political thing, its a matter of stupidity pure and simple. The ***** is a nutcase.

watching her interviews ruled tho honestly, I hope the tv guys contiue to knock the **** out of her (even if its only by replaying old clips of her)

The funniest **** I see is this douchebag who says palin is alaskas greatest gift to the us! I bet they are all laughing their *** off about that.

good riddance,
Why are you so disrespectful bro?

Can you not make your point based on sound logic without having to resort to making personal attacks?

Your logic will seem a lot more sound if you can have a discussion fact for fact without falling to your emotions (bitterness, supremacy, etc.).
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Originally Posted by slow04wrx
Uh I don't need to be from Alaska to read about how she fired the dude illegally it was already a conflict of interest (any halfway intelligent politician would have realized they should avoid stepping in the ****). Then she continued to ignore subpoenas, and basically say **** you to the government. She shafted Alaska with many monetary projects as well. And also yea I watched a documentary, particularly interesting part was where they went to the town where Palin can SEE RUSSIA, but they all said it was a total cop out lie she had never been there and didn't do **** for the community. Fortunately Palin contradicts herself, and sets herself up to look like a total moron so I don't have to be in Alaska to know that.

Reminds me of that song...................open your eyes..........open your eyezzzzzzz


honestly this isn't a political thing, its a matter of stupidity pure and simple. The ***** is a nutcase.

watching her interviews ruled tho honestly, I hope the tv guys contiue to knock the **** out of her (even if its only by replaying old clips of her)

The funniest **** I see is this douchebag who says palin is alaskas greatest gift to the us! I bet they are all laughing their *** off about that.

good riddance,

The way you are speaking is called "Appeal to Ridicule" and is considered a Fallacy in LOGICAL debate.

"The Appeal to Ridicule is a fallacy in which ridicule or mockery is substituted for evidence in an "argument."

Maybe you are on the "Bandwagon" as well.
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This is an email from my Uncle in Alaska during the election. He is one of the most intelligent people I know AND is and International Teamster representative. He is Pro Union. Very much Democrat BUT he is logical in reason. He is good friends with many union leaders, as he organizes unions then passes the power on to a leader.

Here is what he had to say at the time.

Rob sometimes life creates opportunities for you that you never dreamed would happen. Situations that were insignificant at the time are elevatedby fate.

Palin was a huge supporter of then Governor Frank Murkowski who had been ourSenator for over 20 years. Her support got her appointed to the Oil and GasCommission. Little did Sara know at the time that taking on her boss on that commission who was the Chairman of the Republican Party would one day place her in the national spotlight. She questioned his on the job tactics of fund raising and using his position to advance the party all on state time. For doing that she was scorned by the party and ridiculed by the talk show hosts.

In time her recourse was to run against a setting Governor (an A-Hole by theway). She beat the crap out of him in the primary and eventually won the Governorship.

Gutsy - yes, but the stage had been set by a horrible governor for the R's and a poor candidate from the D's. Her outgoing personality and her "I'm just common folks like you" attitude caught fire with the electorate and she won big time. She stuck to her principles, I respect that and good for her.

She never sought out stature on the national scene. I think McCain ran across her at the national governor's conference and she caught his eye.Personally I think it was a knee jerk reaction but that knee jerk reaction combined with the fate of her past actions has thrust Palin into the national limelight. She stumbled into the right place at the right time.

Is she ready to be a VP- no not in my opinion - yet. Will she hold up under national scrutiny - yes I think so. Will she be ready by Election Day - yes that is unless they catch her doing some immoral act or caves under pressure.

Do I think her appointment would alter my persuasions - no? I'm not really enamored by either candidate. McCain, may be a great American but has one of the worst records on labor. He has that maverick streak in him that may, and I stress may, make some changes in Washington DC and we need that.

Obama is inspiring and has a very good labor record but in my opinion he leans too far to what I call the lunatic left. My friends in Chicago say he is one of the most intelligent people they have ever met. If he would use that intellect to appoint the right people there would be no question in my mind.

As for experience, I don't think that is a big deal, it is who you surround yourself with that makes you. G.W. Bush appointed all the retreads from his fathers administration who had an agenda and took us to a war in Iraq that we did not need - at least at that time in history. We could have squeezed his you know whats. Because of 9/11 we had the support of the world at the time in history, but no the cowboy had to ride into Bagdad alone with guns blazing.

For me the jury is still out but I still lean to Obama because I believe he can inspire people to do what is needed. As for Peloisi and Reed, both a waste of the human genome.
Remember, I am not a Republican or Democrat. I vote for the person of ANY party that I think will do the best for our nation. I do not think Palin was ready for Presidency and I think it is a shame that she had to resign because she GENUINELY cares about her state.


If you want to ***** about anyone, you should be *****ing about Arnold.
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Originally Posted by medicSTi
But Palin hasn't said anything to the GOP or media to confirm that.

As for the Democratic Ads, they will only work on people that spend 10 seconds assessing the situation and taking it for face value.

Palin just pwned tons of politicians by "passing the ball" for the benefit of her "team" (Alaska). She just put her state above herself.

She was honest and recognized that millions of dollars and countless hours were being taken away from doing work for the people of Alaska since August last year.

Showed true character and her values.
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f...ah-palin200908

Read the damn article man. Christian values? What, like exploitation, lying, arrogance and incompitence. Yeah... sure sounds Christian to me. She was unfit for any sort of political office, let alone Presidency.

Come on man, please tell me you are smarter than that. You would honestly feel comfortable having her as Vice President? Get past the Christian aspect and look at how she ran her office.

Wake up.
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Originally Posted by medicSTi
That is all.

...your misunderstanding above seems consistent with your misunderstanding of the meaning of my statement.
Awe, come on. You know that was a good one.

Don't throw bricks at me for not being a Palin apologist.
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Man, I feel soooo bad for her and her family... The media is such a POS, we should start a media company that exposes the media. !!!
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Rob
Remember, I am not a Republican or Democrat. I vote for the person of ANY party that supports the shooting of wolves from the air for the sport of it. Definitely a plus if extinction is the goal.

Source: Here

Excerpt: In a program begun by ex-Gov. Frank Murkowski, and intensified by Palin, Alaska has sponsored the aerial hunting of more than 800 wolves since 2002 -- out of a state population of perhaps 9,000. Pilots chase the wolves through the deep snow, sometimes for miles, until the exhausted animals have slowed enough to be blown away with shotguns. Then the plane lands and finishes the job, unless the wounded wolf has managed to crawl into the deep woods to bleed to death in solitude.




If you want to ***** about anyone, you should be *****ing about Arnold.
I fixed your post for you, TurboRob.


We don't want to get started on the governator - the list is far too long, and I'd start comparing him to Bush - the two of them formed the Axis of Evil - and are both a waste of a human life.

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Originally Posted by Turbo Rob
This is an email from my Uncle in Alaska during the election. He is one of the most intelligent people I know AND is and International Teamster representative. He is Pro Union. Very much Democrat BUT he is logical in reason. He is good friends with many union leaders, as he organizes unions then passes the power on to a leader.

Here is what he had to say at the time.



Remember, I am not a Republican or Democrat. I vote for the person of ANY party that I think will do the best for our nation. I do not think Palin was ready for Presidency and I think it is a shame that she had to resign because she GENUINELY cares about her state.


If you want to ***** about anyone, you should be *****ing about Arnold.
Wow, that was really well put. Thanks for posting it Robin.
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Originally Posted by Generic
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f...ah-palin200908

Read the damn article man. Christian values? What, like exploitation, lying, arrogance and incompitence. Yeah... sure sounds Christian to me. She was unfit for any sort of political office, let alone Presidency.

Come on man, please tell me you are smarter than that. You would honestly feel comfortable having her as Vice President? Get past the Christian aspect and look at how she ran her office.

Wake up.
I didn't say I wanted her to be the VP right now.

1. Politics from Vanity Fair? Really?
2. Article was far from reporting... it was filled with bias... look at the author's choice of words... definitely not neutral.

Palin is unlike any other national figure in modern American life—neither Anna Nicole Smith nor Margaret Chase Smith but a phenomenon all her own. The clouds of tabloid conflict and controversy that swirl around her and her extended clan—the surprise pregnancies, the two-bit blood feuds, the tawdry in-laws and common-law kin caught selling drugs or poaching game—give her family a singular status in the rogues’ gallery of political relatives. By comparison, Billy Carter, Donald Nixon, and Roger Clinton seem like avatars of circumspection. Palin’s life has sometimes played out like an unholy amalgam of Desperate Housewives and Northern Exposure.
3. The only thing I could find in there that I thought you wanted me to note and reconsider her values was the portion about the Alaska Fund Trust.

Also with Coale’s help, Palin formed the grandiosely named Alaska Fund Trust, to defray a reported half million dollars in legal expenses arising from a slew of formal ethics complaints against her in her home state—prompting yet another formal complaint, that the fund itself constitutes an ethical breach.
According to the Official Alaska Fund Trust website:

The Alaska Fund Trust is the official legal fund created to defend the integrity of the Alaska Governor's Office from an onslaught of political attacks launched against current Governor Sarah Palin, the First Family, and state-employed colleagues. These baseless accusations have cost Alaska more than $1 million in public monies to defend, and Governor Palin has incurred more than half a million dollars in personal debt defending her official actions as Governor.
And a portion from a recent article with the results of the ethics cases:

Monday, June 08, 2009
By Bret Baier

Now some fresh pickings from the Political Grapevine:

Winning Streak

Alaska Governor Sarah Palin is batting 1,000 against ethics charges. The Washington Times reports the former Republican vice presidential nominee has fought off all 14 complaints since being put on the ticket.

The latest came from an Anchorage resident who said Palin abused her position for financial gain by wearing a jacket in public that was manufactured by the snowmobile company that sponsors her husband. That complaint was dismissed last week.

Governor Palin had called the charge, "asinine political grandstanding."...

On the Official Alaska Fund Trust website, they have a list of other Politicians with similar Trust Funds which include: Senator Kerry, Senator Clinton, President Clinton, Senator Stevens, Representative DeLay, and Representative Gephardt.

If they incur personal debt from legal bills acquired as a result of being attacked because of their position can you not understand why they have such funds?

Think about what would happen in America if anyone who brought opposition to the table was silenced out of fear of others attempting to bury them in legal bills to stop them from getting their message out. The good people would be buried and paralyzed because of a flawed system.
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Originally Posted by Superglue WRX
Awe, come on. You know that was a good one.

Don't throw bricks at me for not being a Palin apologist.
lol I didn't throw the brick because you aren't a Palin apologist You knew that's not what I meant when you posted your comment.

She's standing firm by her convictions and she's legit... but the way she is being treated is ridiculous and wrong.
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Originally Posted by medicSTi
She's standing firm by her convictions and she's legit... but the way she is allowing the wolf to be hunted to extinction is ridiculous and wrong.
Fixed.

How about we drop her off in the middle of wolf country with nothing but a baseball bat and let her try to use her Christian values and beliefs to beat the wolves to death? Oh yeah, that's right - God would save her and bring her home with at least 100 wolf skins. God doesn't give a s**t about the wolves either. Oh, and I notice nobody who's defending her has ANYTHING to say about this subject - interesting.
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Fixed.

How about we drop her off in the middle of wolf country with nothing but a baseball bat and let her try to use her Christian values and beliefs to beat the wolves to death? Oh yeah, that's right - God would save her and bring her home with at least 100 wolf skins. God doesn't give a s**t about the wolves either. Oh, and I notice nobody who's defending her has ANYTHING to say about this subject - interesting.
Seriously Greg? The emotional nonsense is ridiculous. If you have a legitimate point, then I'm sure there is a more logical way to demonstrate it...

As far as you mocking God, that's between you and Him.

Galatians 6:7

7Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
With regards to the wolves, fill me in since I haven't heard about this issue What are the facts?
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Okay, just the facts: http://www.salon.com/env/feature/200..._palin_wolves/

Excerpt:

But that was before Sarah Palin took Murkowski's job at the end of 2006. She went one step, or paw, further. Palin didn't think Alaskans should be allowed to chase wolves from aircraft and shoot them -- they should be encouraged to do so. Palin's administration put a bounty on wolves' heads, or to be more precise, on their mitts.

In early 2007, Palin's administration approved an initiative to pay a $150 bounty to hunters who killed a wolf from an airplane in certain areas, hacked off the left foreleg, and brought in the appendage.
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