really OT, i have a question about the corolla GTS
06-13-2003, 03:52 PM
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really OT, i have a question about the corolla GTS
haha yeah, um..i have some questions, and i hope some of you can answer them
is it possible to make an sr-5 into a corolla GTS? anybody know the main differences?
What motors will, or have been known to fit into a GTS? ive heard of people putting in 1st gen supercharged mr2 motots, and even 3SGE engines, any other motors?
TIA
is it possible to make an sr-5 into a corolla GTS? anybody know the main differences?
What motors will, or have been known to fit into a GTS? ive heard of people putting in 1st gen supercharged mr2 motots, and even 3SGE engines, any other motors?
TIA
06-13-2003, 04:59 PM
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It woud probably bring better results to swap the Celica motor into a Celica GTS chasis from '80-84. I had an '84 Celica, and the chassis was great, even for a POS car, but the truck motor in it sucked ***. No high end- in a Toyota coupe! Lame. Anyways, I have long wondered if the twin cam GTS head would have fit the 2.4 liter block in my Celica... that would have been pretty sweet...
06-13-2003, 05:17 PM
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for what it costs it's not worth making a sr5 a gts. You will need a whole new rear end, basically all the wiring and ecu, different engine. And for interior the seats and i think the gauge cluster is different. The sr5 really sucks and has no power at all, and you can find a gts for really cheap. Also the 3sge will fit in the corrolla body, i am almost 100% sure because my friend was gona get my other friends engine from his 88 all trac.
theres specific details on club4ag under reference. Goto the bottum then clikc sr5 to gts. It tells u everything.
theres specific details on club4ag under reference. Goto the bottum then clikc sr5 to gts. It tells u everything.
06-14-2003, 08:57 AM
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In the manga, Itsuki eventually turbos his Levin. This was during the Toudou (whatever) racing school saga with the pro circuit drivers with the Hondas.
06-14-2003, 09:07 AM
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Yes, it is possible to convert an SR-5 to a GTS. It really depends on how much you want to spend. Of hand, I would say that you are better off buying a GT-s to begin with. But, if the SR-5 is really fresh and clean then maybe...
There are a ton of engines that can work on an ae-86. You can stay with the stock 4a-ge with the old TVIS (kinda wimpy) and do some minor tweaks such as playing around with the air flow meter or swap the head for a 140 horse version from an later model AE-92 (front drive) GTS Heck you can even go with the new 20 valve 4AG (with a little conversion on the coolant hoses) I have even seen an SR20DET installed in an 86!!!
In my opinion, I would shy away from the heavier 3Sg or 3TGTE cause they are heavier and upsets the balance of the car.
I once had an 86 with the 140 horse 4AG running on carbs ( twin weber 45 DCOE side drafts) 288-264 TRD cams, high comp pistons and was really a blast to drive.
If you are having the itch to for an AE-86, contact Tito at Redstar, he has done a few of these monsters and is a Toyota guru well before I graduated grade school and I'm 32 years old
There are a ton of engines that can work on an ae-86. You can stay with the stock 4a-ge with the old TVIS (kinda wimpy) and do some minor tweaks such as playing around with the air flow meter or swap the head for a 140 horse version from an later model AE-92 (front drive) GTS Heck you can even go with the new 20 valve 4AG (with a little conversion on the coolant hoses) I have even seen an SR20DET installed in an 86!!!
In my opinion, I would shy away from the heavier 3Sg or 3TGTE cause they are heavier and upsets the balance of the car.
I once had an 86 with the 140 horse 4AG running on carbs ( twin weber 45 DCOE side drafts) 288-264 TRD cams, high comp pistons and was really a blast to drive.
If you are having the itch to for an AE-86, contact Tito at Redstar, he has done a few of these monsters and is a Toyota guru well before I graduated grade school and I'm 32 years old
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06-14-2003, 10:03 AM
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The only reason you want reason you want a SR5 to GTS is
if you wreck your modifed one like here: http://www.racingbayonline.com/ae85/ (no flames on the site, I don't plan to update it)
or if you cannot find a straight GTS.
You can go with varies engine swaps:
Blue top original AE86 GTS 112hp
Red top original AE92 GTS/AW11 130hp/120hp
AW11 4AGZE 145hp
20v 4AGE black or silver top 170hp (black has higher comp)
3TC/2T top 140hp look at SDS website.
or be creative...and build a 7AG (a motor that doesn't exist in Toyota production line)
My motor below
still surprise Club4AG stil have this)
http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20t...20and%207A.htm
I had a 1995 1.8 Corolla bottom
AE92 pisons, AE86 head, and AE101 Rods
Never dyno'ed the car, but had to have at least 165 or 170ish hp
Funny thing is when the swap is complete, it look like a stock 4AG but it's 1800cc!
I use to pop my hood for GSR drivers and then couldn't understand why I was pulling on then.
the only thing you can see is an air filter and exhaust. Muhahahaha!
If you ever have a stock GTS, trying running against a GSR in drag. You definitely lose to a GSR in the end of 2nd gear.
For legal car, do a 4AGZE swap.
For a killer track car, do a 20v 4AGE.
For Drag, do a 3SGTE swap.
If you ever need help anything let me know.
I'll be glad to help you.
Daidae~aka AE86GUY
My missed and loved Hachi:
http://www.club4ag.com/PHOTOS/contri...y_DAVEAE86.jpg
http://www.club4ag.com/PHOTOS/contri...y_OPT2LGTS.jpg
if you wreck your modifed one like here: http://www.racingbayonline.com/ae85/ (no flames on the site, I don't plan to update it)
or if you cannot find a straight GTS.
You can go with varies engine swaps:
Blue top original AE86 GTS 112hp
Red top original AE92 GTS/AW11 130hp/120hp
AW11 4AGZE 145hp
20v 4AGE black or silver top 170hp (black has higher comp)
3TC/2T top 140hp look at SDS website.
or be creative...and build a 7AG (a motor that doesn't exist in Toyota production line)
My motor below
still surprise Club4AG stil have this)http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20t...20and%207A.htm
I had a 1995 1.8 Corolla bottom
AE92 pisons, AE86 head, and AE101 Rods
Never dyno'ed the car, but had to have at least 165 or 170ish hp
Funny thing is when the swap is complete, it look like a stock 4AG but it's 1800cc!
I use to pop my hood for GSR drivers and then couldn't understand why I was pulling on then.
the only thing you can see is an air filter and exhaust. Muhahahaha!
If you ever have a stock GTS, trying running against a GSR in drag. You definitely lose to a GSR in the end of 2nd gear.
For legal car, do a 4AGZE swap.
For a killer track car, do a 20v 4AGE.
For Drag, do a 3SGTE swap.
If you ever need help anything let me know.
I'll be glad to help you.
Daidae~aka AE86GUY
My missed and loved Hachi:
http://www.club4ag.com/PHOTOS/contri...y_DAVEAE86.jpg
http://www.club4ag.com/PHOTOS/contri...y_OPT2LGTS.jpg
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06-14-2003, 10:21 AM
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Dave,
OMG! So that was you w/ that blue AE86!!! I used to see you driving it on Bay Bridge back in the days but I didn't know you then.. hahaha Your Hachi was hella clean! dayam!
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OMG! So that was you w/ that blue AE86!!! I used to see you driving it on Bay Bridge back in the days but I didn't know you then.. hahaha Your Hachi was hella clean! dayam!
Cal
06-14-2003, 11:01 AM
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Thanks Cal.
Back in the dayz??? I feel like a fossil now!
The color code for that paint is the Miata DU.
Loved the color missed the headlights.
Bill , a friend of a friend @ Melody Toyota, is building a
7AG 20v. Can't wait to see it.
BTW Tommy said call you a, "B!TCH"
Back in the dayz??? I feel like a fossil now!
The color code for that paint is the Miata DU.
Loved the color missed the headlights.
Bill , a friend of a friend @ Melody Toyota, is building a
7AG 20v. Can't wait to see it.
BTW Tommy said call you a, "B!TCH"
06-14-2003, 01:17 PM
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hey thanks for the information everyone (specially dave and rotawheels 
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well if all goes as planned this summer, hopefully i can get a job, and get the cash flow going, and get a hachi. But yeah, i already have one turbo car, and i really dont want another lol
i like the NA feeling, the linear powerband. Ive also seen a SR20DET put into a hachi, lol ive seen a vid of it at sac raceway killing an NSX!! haha
but yeah, if i am able to buy a GTS, i dont think i want to turbo it. Ive looked at prices for the 3SGE engines with the new 6 spd and i was like "WHOA!" lol
how rare, and expensive are the 20 valves?
ive also talked to some people about the supercharges mr2 motors, but those are only 1.6 liters IIRC, and they are pretty old engines
ive also talked to some people running diffrerent heads, to get more power, and that def. sounds like the best option in terms of power vs. money
but yeah..thanks for the info guys, i appreciate it
"beat takeshi" on club4ag
)well if all goes as planned this summer, hopefully i can get a job, and get the cash flow going, and get a hachi. But yeah, i already have one turbo car, and i really dont want another lol
i like the NA feeling, the linear powerband. Ive also seen a SR20DET put into a hachi, lol ive seen a vid of it at sac raceway killing an NSX!! haha
but yeah, if i am able to buy a GTS, i dont think i want to turbo it. Ive looked at prices for the 3SGE engines with the new 6 spd and i was like "WHOA!" lol
how rare, and expensive are the 20 valves?
ive also talked to some people about the supercharges mr2 motors, but those are only 1.6 liters IIRC, and they are pretty old engines
ive also talked to some people running diffrerent heads, to get more power, and that def. sounds like the best option in terms of power vs. money
but yeah..thanks for the info guys, i appreciate it
"beat takeshi" on club4ag
06-14-2003, 02:21 PM
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The 20v is not rare. You can get it from Japan Parts in SSF, for about 1200. I've have heard other have bought theirs for 800-900 also, but I do not know where.
20v is not a easy swap. You will need the ecu & harness.
Then you will have to decide to mount the cam/IGN sensor in the back of the block (requires firewall pounding/cutting) or front of the EX cam sprocket. Head swapping is only refering to the 16v 4AG, then you have to customize the AE92 IN/MAN to reverse the T/B position. Ah....HELL! When you are ready, let me know. Too much configuration to type.
SR20DET is nice
Also seen a 20B 3 rotor turbo (600ps) AE86 on vid as well
You can do anything if you have money.
I remember 10 years back, one guy had stuff 1JZ (Supra turbo) in AE86 coupe for drag racing. It's all up to you.
20v is not a easy swap. You will need the ecu & harness.
Then you will have to decide to mount the cam/IGN sensor in the back of the block (requires firewall pounding/cutting) or front of the EX cam sprocket. Head swapping is only refering to the 16v 4AG, then you have to customize the AE92 IN/MAN to reverse the T/B position. Ah....HELL! When you are ready, let me know. Too much configuration to type.
SR20DET is nice
Also seen a 20B 3 rotor turbo (600ps) AE86 on vid as well
You can do anything if you have money.
I remember 10 years back, one guy had stuff 1JZ (Supra turbo) in AE86 coupe for drag racing. It's all up to you.
06-14-2003, 02:41 PM
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haha thanks for the input
yeah, if i decided to put in an sr20, or a turbo mr2 motor, id be worried cause it would be a front heavy car
but yeah, lol i appreciate teh specific information
ill wait til i get more and more money saved, then hopefully i can find one and buy it
yeah, if i decided to put in an sr20, or a turbo mr2 motor, id be worried cause it would be a front heavy car
but yeah, lol i appreciate teh specific information
ill wait til i get more and more money saved, then hopefully i can find one and buy it