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Old 10-28-2006 | 02:57 AM
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question on exhibition of speed

So I was whipping a few donuts in the the dorm parking lot, and the cops were a little less than agreeable on that. Anyhow...

I got a ticket for exhibition of speed, violation 23109(c) code VC
under approx. speed, 30-40 mph
veh. speed limit, 25 mph
safe speed, 15 mph
radar, -

I'm fairly certain that the cop went easy on me. I am curious about the offense though. He didn't bust me for reckless driving which is what I expected. I was doing fairly tight drifts on wet tarmac, so I'm doubtful that I was actually going faster than 20mph. He never got a radar on my speed, just his best guess.

What do you guys think? Any other college students have this experience?

I don't want to cause trouble for the officer, but at the same time I can't afford fines like this. I know I should have expected this, but I was doing it in a far corner of the parking lot, and didn't expect this much trouble.
Old 10-28-2006 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mulcibre

I don't want to cause trouble for the officer, but at the same time I can't afford fines like this. I know I should have expected this, but I was doing it in a far corner of the parking lot, and didn't expect this much trouble.

lol

hey guys i got in trouble for doing something illegal!!!

dude, you knew it was against the law, you knew there could be penalties. you got in trouble, now pay the fine.....
Old 10-28-2006 | 03:32 AM
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haha damn the cop didn't give me my licence back either

I dunno, just seemed kinda weird that the officer opted for exhibition of speed. I know there are some forum members who are police officers, I was just looking for some insight into the whole "exhibition of speed" thing. Every other ticket I've gotten has been "Muthaf*ckas goin too fast!"
Old 10-28-2006 | 03:41 AM
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Old 10-28-2006 | 03:53 AM
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yeah true that. I really want to know what the technical details on this are though.
Old 10-28-2006 | 04:46 AM
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Here we go... Reckless driving is wanton disregard for persons or property. If you came close to another car he could've hit you with this as well, be glad he didn't. Exhibition of speed is basically showing off. Donuts are showing off. Popping a wheelie on your bike, exhibition of speed. That make sense?
Old 10-28-2006 | 04:50 AM
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yeah thats pretty much what I was looking for. Vehicle code backs that up. Just doing a search, I found tons of guys who were whining about being pulled over for exhibition of speed after doing burnouts, donuts, whatever.

I guess I was kinda confused, seems like a misnomer for a situation where I never broke 20 mph. But hey, if you swim in sh*t you're gonna eat it eventually. Thanks for the help!

I think I'll try to pay off the fine when it comes. Hopefully it won't be too much.
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better start bending over for that exhibition of speed!
Old 10-28-2006 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by illogical
Here we go... Reckless driving is wanton disregard for persons or property. If you came close to another car he could've hit you with this as well, be glad he didn't. Exhibition of speed is basically showing off. Donuts are showing off. Popping a wheelie on your bike, exhibition of speed. That make sense?
or barely squeeling you tires on a right hand turn falls into exhibition of speed.. trust me i know!
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Originally Posted by mulcibre
So I was whipping a few donuts in the the dorm parking lot, and the cops were a little less than agreeable on that. Anyhow...

I got a ticket for exhibition of speed, violation 23109(c) code VC
under approx. speed, 30-40 mph
veh. speed limit, 25 mph
safe speed, 15 mph
radar, -

I'm fairly certain that the cop went easy on me. I am curious about the offense though. He didn't bust me for reckless driving which is what I expected. I was doing fairly tight drifts on wet tarmac, so I'm doubtful that I was actually going faster than 20mph. He never got a radar on my speed, just his best guess.

What do you guys think? Any other college students have this experience?

I don't want to cause trouble for the officer, but at the same time I can't afford fines like this. I know I should have expected this, but I was doing it in a far corner of the parking lot, and didn't expect this much trouble.
Donuts A?
...So now you gotta pay
Old 10-28-2006 | 10:45 AM
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arent you more worried about the insurance? where i come from, paying the ticket is the fun part...
Old 10-28-2006 | 10:54 AM
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In Marin County, Exhibition of speed = 1 day of jail, hefty fine, lots of points.
Old 10-28-2006 | 10:56 AM
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i know burning rubber is exebition of speed but ive also heard a rumor that the police consider reving your engine in the same category..... is this true, anyone?
Old 10-28-2006 | 11:34 AM
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i know burning rubber is exebition of speed but ive also heard a rumor that the police consider reving your engine in the same category..... is this true, anyone?
it up to the police officers discretion, and if there is a city or county ordinance in place... i squeeled my tires on a right hand turn.. no big deal right? happens all the time... well i did it in a part of town where they were trying to crack down on street racing and cars with illegal mods... driving a wrx ( completely stock at the time) i fell within that window and was cited for exhibition of speed.. FYI any tire squeeling, donuts, hard take off,( anything dumb/speed related and un-called for) can fall into exhibition of acceleration/speed and its not much better than getting cited for wreckless driving
Old 10-28-2006 | 11:43 AM
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They can ticket you for anything anymore. Yes, I do believe they can write you up for revving your engine.

First off to the OP, the cop cited you for a misdimeanor, right? Not an infraction?

23109(c) States that
Originally Posted by DMV
(c) A person shall not engage in any motor vehicle exhibition of speed on a highway, and no person shall aid or abet in a motor vehicle exhibition of speed on any highway.
Were you on a highway? For clarification purposes, section12500(d) describes an offstreet parking facility as...
Originally Posted by DMV
(c) A person may not drive a motor vehicle in or upon any offstreet parking facility, unless the person then holds a valid driver's license of the appropriate class or certification to operate the vehicle. As used in this subdivision, "offstreet parking facility" means any offstreet facility held open for use by the public for parking vehicles and includes any publicly owned facilities for offstreet parking, and privately owned facilities for offstreet parking where no fee is charged for the privilege to park and which are held open for the common public use of retail customers.
In plenty of other vc sections, it will clarify how they can cite you and what for. It's either termed as a "highway" or "offstreet parking facility." I'd say that you were on an "offstreet parking facility," not a "highway." (They've termed highway as almost any other road you drive on to get from point A to point B, including almost all backroads.) Section 23109 does not cover offstreet parking facilities, to my understanding.

Just for sake of argument.

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