Proven way to stop theives
05-12-2005, 02:30 AM
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in my old civic.. i use to just take the ecu w/ me... in my mind, if they knew enough to come w/ the proper ecu to plug in and take my car... they must've really wanted it... haha
05-12-2005, 07:29 AM
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IN my old Datsun I used a combintaion of a starter kill, hidden push button start, a removable steering wheel, and my favorite a radio cover made from an original Datsun stereo. I took the face plate off it and made it into an aftermarket cover. Never got stolen, and never broken into.
05-12-2005, 07:39 AM
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Having my car stolen would be about the best thing that could happen to me.
Seriously, trade in value on a "Fair" '02 WRX wagon with 151,000 miles is only 6000, to pay it off I still need to come up with 11,500,
so- take my car,
(please!)
Seriously, trade in value on a "Fair" '02 WRX wagon with 151,000 miles is only 6000, to pay it off I still need to come up with 11,500,
so- take my car,
(please!)
05-12-2005, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by psoper
Having my car stolen would be about the best thing that could happen to me.
Seriously, trade in value on a "Fair" '02 WRX wagon with 151,000 miles is only 6000, to pay it off I still need to come up with 11,500,
so- take my car,
(please!)
Seriously, trade in value on a "Fair" '02 WRX wagon with 151,000 miles is only 6000, to pay it off I still need to come up with 11,500,
so- take my car,
(please!)
I figure that I will hit 100K long before my loan is paid off. then once I get the pink, I will do an STi swap.
05-12-2005, 08:34 AM
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lojack, gps, cell phone, google maps...
and various kill switches, and stuff along those lines, then pair it up with one of those radio powered remote alarms (the ones with the lcds, that way you know up to a mile away when your **** goes off)..
Oh and pack heat
and various kill switches, and stuff along those lines, then pair it up with one of those radio powered remote alarms (the ones with the lcds, that way you know up to a mile away when your **** goes off)..
Oh and pack heat
05-12-2005, 08:53 AM
#24
there really is no proven way to do it.
You can MINIMIZE it. But a good car theif is gonna get what they want. And really good ones will have that sucker parked and stripped before you can do a thing about it. Trust me. I've seen insanely expensive show RHD imports with all the bells and whissles not to mention parked inside of a locked shop get stolen and cut in half and stripped before anyone knew they were gone. It's a ****ty profession to be in. I freakin hate theives.
I had a really nice alarm on my civic....it got hit in the bart parking lot.
ways to minimize.
1. quality alarm
2. ignition kill
3. manual kill switch
4. LED's where you can see them(not ricer style) but maybe in the doors.
5. Careful where you park.
6. Lojack/similar system.
Stuff like that.
Also...I'd look into the new KARR system. It's like lojack but if it grows it will be better. It's GPS based. You can literally go online and look at exactly where your car is. If the alarm goes off you'll be notified. If it moves you'll be notified.
You can then go online and look exactly where it is. You can choose to kill the car. Push the button and the next time they park the car it will not start again. You can then work with the police on locating the vehicle.
VW offers it with all their cars. We got it on my girls car. I seriously thought about doing it on my car. I think it's like $750 which really isn't much more than a normal quality alarm.
basically all we can do is minimize.
There are so many ways to steal a car. You can poach someones alarm key signal. Shoot you can just throw it on a flatbed and take it away. A guy on the hotrod boards had someone pull his gate over then load his 62 SS into a closed trailer and gonzo.
on my cadi I'll have kill switches and no door handles.
You can MINIMIZE it. But a good car theif is gonna get what they want. And really good ones will have that sucker parked and stripped before you can do a thing about it. Trust me. I've seen insanely expensive show RHD imports with all the bells and whissles not to mention parked inside of a locked shop get stolen and cut in half and stripped before anyone knew they were gone. It's a ****ty profession to be in. I freakin hate theives.
I had a really nice alarm on my civic....it got hit in the bart parking lot.
ways to minimize.
1. quality alarm
2. ignition kill
3. manual kill switch
4. LED's where you can see them(not ricer style) but maybe in the doors.
5. Careful where you park.
6. Lojack/similar system.
Stuff like that.
Also...I'd look into the new KARR system. It's like lojack but if it grows it will be better. It's GPS based. You can literally go online and look at exactly where your car is. If the alarm goes off you'll be notified. If it moves you'll be notified.
You can then go online and look exactly where it is. You can choose to kill the car. Push the button and the next time they park the car it will not start again. You can then work with the police on locating the vehicle.
VW offers it with all their cars. We got it on my girls car. I seriously thought about doing it on my car. I think it's like $750 which really isn't much more than a normal quality alarm.
basically all we can do is minimize.
There are so many ways to steal a car. You can poach someones alarm key signal. Shoot you can just throw it on a flatbed and take it away. A guy on the hotrod boards had someone pull his gate over then load his 62 SS into a closed trailer and gonzo.
on my cadi I'll have kill switches and no door handles.
05-12-2005, 09:48 AM
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Some things to look for in alarms:
Battery backup siren - the 1st thing a theif does is silence your alarm by yanking off the power from your battery. If your siren keeps going, there's a good chance he'll leave.
Proximity sensor - when a theif is casing out the inside of your car, it'll set off the alarm. DEI/Clifford makes one that you can add on to exisiting non-dei and OEM alarms.
A well hidden brain - with most alarms, all you have to do is rip out the brain to disable it. if it's hard to rip out, it'll be harder to start your car. it also helps to have the wiring loomed, like oem wiring, so it's harder to bypass the alarm.
Other things that'll help:
Hood locks - if you have a CF hood, use locks (barrel type) instead of pins.
The BOOT: http://www.universalboot.com/
And BTW, the sensitivity adjustment on the OEM alarm only adjusts the sensitivity of the shock sensor.
Battery backup siren - the 1st thing a theif does is silence your alarm by yanking off the power from your battery. If your siren keeps going, there's a good chance he'll leave.
Proximity sensor - when a theif is casing out the inside of your car, it'll set off the alarm. DEI/Clifford makes one that you can add on to exisiting non-dei and OEM alarms.
A well hidden brain - with most alarms, all you have to do is rip out the brain to disable it. if it's hard to rip out, it'll be harder to start your car. it also helps to have the wiring loomed, like oem wiring, so it's harder to bypass the alarm.
Other things that'll help:
Hood locks - if you have a CF hood, use locks (barrel type) instead of pins.
The BOOT: http://www.universalboot.com/
And BTW, the sensitivity adjustment on the OEM alarm only adjusts the sensitivity of the shock sensor.
05-12-2005, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
how can you adjust that?
05-12-2005, 10:33 AM
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Other ideas, good and bad. Most are designed to keep a thief from taking your car on a flatbed rather than stopping someone from starting it.
1. Etch a fake social security # into all the glass and a couple of other visable places. Most strippers do not want the hassle of stealing parts that will be hard to turn over, if you etch the glass, they may conclude all the parts are marked.
2. Not environmentally friendly -pour fresh motor oil / radiator fluid under your car if you leave it overnight.
3. Rubber gloves and fake vomit in the passengers compartment, For added effect get a bottle of hospital disinfectant and leave in there too. Maybe a booklet on "Living with AIDS"
4. Wire a direct connection from the battery to two electrodes attached and insulated on the drivers door handle. Install an on/off switch. when on, if anyone touches the two electrodes they will get the battery charge (this could be fatal, so be careful!!).
5. Install an obviously cheesy kill switch to an led. However, wire it into a smoke unit under the transmission so that when the system is cut, it grounds out and sets off the smoke unit under the car. My experience is that people will respond to a car on fire and that thieves definately do not want to mess with things that are out of the ordinary, like their target burning up. Most cops, no matter how bored, will stop a flat bed with a car on fire.
6. In that same vein..it is pretty easy to wire your car so it will really catch on fire if someone tries to move it.
7. Make a black box with mercury switches, an 12 v battery, and a couple of Hella Supertones (all self contained, nothing wired to the car). When armed, if it is moved in any direction it will make a very loud noise. Make a couple of fake ones with nothing inside but a switch on the outside. Leave the fake ones in logical places for thieves to find. Hide the real one.
8. Be random with your car. If someone wants your car they will scope it out to see where and when it is parked and when you visit it. If you make it hard to be predictable, they may move on to a sure thing.
9. In very crime filled countries (the bandits will steal your car at gunpoint in daylight), I've traveled in cars that have clasp locks welded to the doors hood and trunk, sheet metal covering for the windows and screen welded to the body covering the front window. Removable exterior parts were installed with long threaded bolts and a spot weld placed on the end after installation so the end of each bolt must be cut off or threaded before the part can be removed. In one place, at night the driver removed the wheels and took them inside with him, leaving the car on the ground until morning.
1. Etch a fake social security # into all the glass and a couple of other visable places. Most strippers do not want the hassle of stealing parts that will be hard to turn over, if you etch the glass, they may conclude all the parts are marked.
2. Not environmentally friendly -pour fresh motor oil / radiator fluid under your car if you leave it overnight.
3. Rubber gloves and fake vomit in the passengers compartment, For added effect get a bottle of hospital disinfectant and leave in there too. Maybe a booklet on "Living with AIDS"
4. Wire a direct connection from the battery to two electrodes attached and insulated on the drivers door handle. Install an on/off switch. when on, if anyone touches the two electrodes they will get the battery charge (this could be fatal, so be careful!!).
5. Install an obviously cheesy kill switch to an led. However, wire it into a smoke unit under the transmission so that when the system is cut, it grounds out and sets off the smoke unit under the car. My experience is that people will respond to a car on fire and that thieves definately do not want to mess with things that are out of the ordinary, like their target burning up. Most cops, no matter how bored, will stop a flat bed with a car on fire.
6. In that same vein..it is pretty easy to wire your car so it will really catch on fire if someone tries to move it.
7. Make a black box with mercury switches, an 12 v battery, and a couple of Hella Supertones (all self contained, nothing wired to the car). When armed, if it is moved in any direction it will make a very loud noise. Make a couple of fake ones with nothing inside but a switch on the outside. Leave the fake ones in logical places for thieves to find. Hide the real one.
8. Be random with your car. If someone wants your car they will scope it out to see where and when it is parked and when you visit it. If you make it hard to be predictable, they may move on to a sure thing.
9. In very crime filled countries (the bandits will steal your car at gunpoint in daylight), I've traveled in cars that have clasp locks welded to the doors hood and trunk, sheet metal covering for the windows and screen welded to the body covering the front window. Removable exterior parts were installed with long threaded bolts and a spot weld placed on the end after installation so the end of each bolt must be cut off or threaded before the part can be removed. In one place, at night the driver removed the wheels and took them inside with him, leaving the car on the ground until morning.
05-12-2005, 11:41 AM
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These have worked wonders against theives for me. I simply set a few up every night and set the "clackers" on my nightstand. If I hear any suspicious noises I "clack" one and go back to sleep. I investigate in the morning and they seem to have remarkable results. Word travels quickly and your property will often be avoided by all others.