Please support UFO AutoX in SFR by attending!
08-14-2006, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by vietnameeh
eh.. that body roll is normal that turn was incredibly sharp considering how fast everyone was going thru the slalom....
u can see my car in the background LOL
u can see my car in the background LOL
08-14-2006, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wm07
get whiteline 27mm front sway bar instead. the bigger the better.
08-14-2006, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 06WRX4ME
Didn't you have "steering" issues according to the tech?
Also, so far good news for the WRX that was wrecked on Saturday. Peggy and Dennis seem to be calling in all kinds of favors for getting it fixed. I've gotta arrange with Peggy how to get the car delivered to the shop, but she's got all kinds of experts willing to help, which is just awesome.
Told ya they were good people
08-14-2006, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by vietnameeh
ya but u should hear what the mazda guy is tryna do to them
I talked to Peggy myself, and this is the information I got directly from her. I had dinner with Michael tonight, the driver of the WRX, and he backed it all up and is very pleased with the way they are handling it. UFO seems to be doing everything possible to make this right.
08-16-2006, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Racenut
I was out there yesterday. And I'm a friend of MCDrama.. and of Michael in the wreck WRX. Dennis said it was the first time in 20 years he had ever had something like this happen.
I'm supporting UFO as best I can. Dennis and Peggy are stand up people and are doing this for all the RIGHT reasons. It's not about egos and money, but about having fun and maybe learning a bit about your car. They're putting on a clinic at the end of next month and I'm hoping to be able to go.
It would be a shame to see UFO go away as I've always avoided autox due to some of the attitudes and bs I've seen associated with other events. These guys are keeping it fun.
I'm supporting UFO as best I can. Dennis and Peggy are stand up people and are doing this for all the RIGHT reasons. It's not about egos and money, but about having fun and maybe learning a bit about your car. They're putting on a clinic at the end of next month and I'm hoping to be able to go.
It would be a shame to see UFO go away as I've always avoided autox due to some of the attitudes and bs I've seen associated with other events. These guys are keeping it fun.
-Gagan
08-17-2006, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by chimchimm5
Actually, I started with 38psi cold (front). After the first runs, I was up to 40.5 psi. At this pressure, I was still rolling over to the sidewall. I pumped in to 42 psi and that seemed to help a lot.
My rears had 36 psi cold and they didn't seem to have a problem (of course).
My car is stock stock stock from the dealer (I wanted it that way to see just what a totally stock car is like in autox), save for my kosei 17x7's with Goodyear F1's (all stock size). As a result of this suck... I mean stock set up, I *think* it *looks* like my front tires have positive camber.
I had been waiting for this event to pass before going with these plans:
- professional alignment with -1 static camber in the front.
- whiteline 22mm adjustable front sway bar and Kartboy endlinks
- whiteline 22mm adjustable rear sway bar and Kartboy endlinks
- whiteline rear strut tower bar (and quickreleases) for my wagon-dad-mobile
I'm holding off on the springs for now as I have kid #2 due next week... and this car is #1 my commuter, #2 my secondary family car, and then #3 my fun car. Eventually, I'll probably go with STi wagon pinks on Koni's... or if I can figure out is the Crucial bias towards the front doesn't have a huge effect on front/rear weight bias.
My rears had 36 psi cold and they didn't seem to have a problem (of course).
My car is stock stock stock from the dealer (I wanted it that way to see just what a totally stock car is like in autox), save for my kosei 17x7's with Goodyear F1's (all stock size). As a result of this suck... I mean stock set up, I *think* it *looks* like my front tires have positive camber.
I had been waiting for this event to pass before going with these plans:
- professional alignment with -1 static camber in the front.
- whiteline 22mm adjustable front sway bar and Kartboy endlinks
- whiteline 22mm adjustable rear sway bar and Kartboy endlinks
- whiteline rear strut tower bar (and quickreleases) for my wagon-dad-mobile
I'm holding off on the springs for now as I have kid #2 due next week... and this car is #1 my commuter, #2 my secondary family car, and then #3 my fun car. Eventually, I'll probably go with STi wagon pinks on Koni's... or if I can figure out is the Crucial bias towards the front doesn't have a huge effect on front/rear weight bias.
-Gagan
08-17-2006, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
simply entering the turn too fast is why your car looks the way it does in that picture. Focus on driving smoother, and it may take 4-5 autoxes, but eventually you'll get faster. trust me on this one.
-Gagan
-Gagan
08-17-2006, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by chimchimm5
I wanted to, but I have a wagon, and the Whiteline front bars are sedan/wagon specific. The 22mm adj is the largest available whiteline front bar for the wagon.
08-17-2006, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by chimchimm5
I wanted to, but I have a wagon, and the Whiteline front bars are sedan/wagon specific. The 22mm adj is the largest available whiteline front bar for the wagon.
And Gagan, I don't know anything about that as I've only been doing it for a few months. Without knowing the circumstances of a close call 6 years ago, I don't know how it could relate to what happened last weekend. Seems kinda rash for a close call to be the reason NASA would just pull the plug? Sounds like maybe they were looking for a reason? Couldn't be politics at work... that would be crazy
08-17-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
bull****. Dennis fails to tell you why NASA bowed out of autox in our region, and from what I hear it was for safety reasons. With this accident, he may lose ufo autox as well. There was near miss accident at marina with his NASA autox like 6+ years ago i'm told where an integra and some other car nearly hit at full race speeds (one driver seeing the other hit the brakes, and stopped inches from the path of the car whizzing by he bumper a second later)
-Gagan
-Gagan
I really like UFO for the people running the event and low cost. What I am getting a bit tired of though are the ****ing drift kids, and idiots that go to try and show off.
I go to have fun and to try and improve my driving skills in a safe environment.
this last event didn't have enough support from experienced people, or people that care about others safety.
I am going to try and attend the next SCCA event to see how that goes, not sure when or where it is though, I will go look.
08-17-2006, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
simply entering the turn too fast is why your car looks the way it does in that picture. Focus on driving smoother, and it may take 4-5 autoxes, but eventually you'll get faster. trust me on this one.
-Gagan
-Gagan
I was definitely going in hotter than I should have. If I understand it correctly though, your entry speed has a lot to do with how much front traction you have. Since it was my first autox, and first time taking my car to the edge, I didn't know really where that limit was. So, with better traction (which I believe camber would help), corner entry could be faster right?
In that picture, I remember coming out of the last slalom corner and getting on the brakes really hard as I straightened up. I was trying to go wide left to set up for this turn but there wasn't enough room so I settled for braking hard and having to take an early apex at that cone in the pic. That meant wide exit, and hard turn to get around to the last corner to the finish and the tire rollover of that pic... definitely NOT my original plan.
I try very hard not to "flick" my car; and "soft landing" the body roll into the set of the turn, with focus on NOT over shooting with the body roll. I remember my early engineering classes and the force plate we measured the dynamics of someone jumping on. I understand that traction limits are quickly exceeded, even if just briefly, by these force spikes.
Anyways, thanks for the response.
08-17-2006, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mcdrama
You sound very passionate Gagan. So what is different between SCCA events vs. UFO events that makes SCCA events safer? Is it course lay out? Is it the staff workers? Is it the attendees?
I really like UFO for the people running the event and low cost. What I am getting a bit tired of though are the ****ing drift kids, and idiots that go to try and show off.
I go to have fun and to try and improve my driving skills in a safe environment.
this last event didn't have enough support from experienced people, or people that care about others safety.
I am going to try and attend the next SCCA event to see how that goes, not sure when or where it is though, I will go look.
I really like UFO for the people running the event and low cost. What I am getting a bit tired of though are the ****ing drift kids, and idiots that go to try and show off.
I go to have fun and to try and improve my driving skills in a safe environment.
this last event didn't have enough support from experienced people, or people that care about others safety.
I am going to try and attend the next SCCA event to see how that goes, not sure when or where it is though, I will go look.
as for UFO... dennis gave a place for the drifters to drift.. which i respect alot..and its fun watching... but u definitely get more for the money with UFO...
i liek scca as its fun watching alot of the experienced drivers out there puttign down killer times and they are more than helpful with talkign about setups and what to do on course..
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08-17-2006, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by vietnameeh
mcdrama your more then welcome to come to the next event monsterpark as my guest... unless ur a member already... but let me know ... as i may have a buddy that wants to go
as for UFO... dennis gave a place for the drifters to drift.. which i respect alot..and its fun watching... but u definitely get more for the money with UFO...
i liek scca as its fun watching alot of the experienced drivers out there puttign down killer times and they are more than helpful with talkign about setups and what to do on course..
as for UFO... dennis gave a place for the drifters to drift.. which i respect alot..and its fun watching... but u definitely get more for the money with UFO...
i liek scca as its fun watching alot of the experienced drivers out there puttign down killer times and they are more than helpful with talkign about setups and what to do on course..
I do have an SCCA license so I can go.
What does it cost to drive though?