Official: SF 49ers 2011/2012 Season thread
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Smith commanded a decent offense, through the air, for the most part. It was a great game.
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Speaking of Alex Smith... I was watching Aaron Rodgers the other day and I honestly believe that dude is gonna be THE guy for the next 10-12 years. Alla Brady, Manning, Favre, etc.
The dude is a future hall of gamer for sure. He is the perfect example of how to properly groom a QB. Draft a quality guy. Put him behind a quality QB to learn from. Give him some time to learn the system. And then more importantly... design the system around what you have.
Brady/Montana/Young are the perfect examples of how to build a system for a QB. Manning and Favre were the system. Brady/Montana/Young had systems build for them. So does Rodgers. The system is built for him not to fail and he doesn't. Perfect play calling. Excellent reads. TONS TONS TONS of time in a HUGE pocket. He knows the system and he uses it. Goes through his reads... no one there.. dump to an RB, not there... out of bounds it goes. He'll run if he has too but not otherwise. It's amazing to watch. He has 3 picks all year and I think 2 of them were receiver errors. That's amazing. I think he'll go all 16 games over 100 rating and then I think they're gonna go in the playoffs and win. Then win the Super Bowl. This team I think doesn't loose.
Friggin amazing.
Where as Alex was not handled correctly and the system was not built for him to succeed. They basically put him out there and said win the game for us. Now they have a good coach and they're building a system around what they have... defense, solid run game, decent pass game. Short passes.
Only thing that I believe they are missing on is underusing Vernon Davis.
The dude is a future hall of gamer for sure. He is the perfect example of how to properly groom a QB. Draft a quality guy. Put him behind a quality QB to learn from. Give him some time to learn the system. And then more importantly... design the system around what you have.
Brady/Montana/Young are the perfect examples of how to build a system for a QB. Manning and Favre were the system. Brady/Montana/Young had systems build for them. So does Rodgers. The system is built for him not to fail and he doesn't. Perfect play calling. Excellent reads. TONS TONS TONS of time in a HUGE pocket. He knows the system and he uses it. Goes through his reads... no one there.. dump to an RB, not there... out of bounds it goes. He'll run if he has too but not otherwise. It's amazing to watch. He has 3 picks all year and I think 2 of them were receiver errors. That's amazing. I think he'll go all 16 games over 100 rating and then I think they're gonna go in the playoffs and win. Then win the Super Bowl. This team I think doesn't loose.
Friggin amazing.
Where as Alex was not handled correctly and the system was not built for him to succeed. They basically put him out there and said win the game for us. Now they have a good coach and they're building a system around what they have... defense, solid run game, decent pass game. Short passes.
Only thing that I believe they are missing on is underusing Vernon Davis.
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I'm so stoked for bay area teams right now.
The Raiders still need a lot of work, but the 49ers just need to keep doing what they're doing. Harbaugh has done a fantastic job over there.
The Raiders still need a lot of work, but the 49ers just need to keep doing what they're doing. Harbaugh has done a fantastic job over there.
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Speaking of Alex Smith... I was watching Aaron Rodgers the other day and I honestly believe that dude is gonna be THE guy for the next 10-12 years. Alla Brady, Manning, Favre, etc.
The dude is a future hall of gamer for sure. He is the perfect example of how to properly groom a QB. Draft a quality guy. Put him behind a quality QB to learn from. Give him some time to learn the system. And then more importantly... design the system around what you have.
Brady/Montana/Young are the perfect examples of how to build a system for a QB. Manning and Favre were the system. Brady/Montana/Young had systems build for them. So does Rodgers. The system is built for him not to fail and he doesn't. Perfect play calling. Excellent reads. TONS TONS TONS of time in a HUGE pocket. He knows the system and he uses it. Goes through his reads... no one there.. dump to an RB, not there... out of bounds it goes. He'll run if he has too but not otherwise. It's amazing to watch. He has 3 picks all year and I think 2 of them were receiver errors. That's amazing. I think he'll go all 16 games over 100 rating and then I think they're gonna go in the playoffs and win. Then win the Super Bowl. This team I think doesn't loose.
Friggin amazing.
Where as Alex was not handled correctly and the system was not built for him to succeed. They basically put him out there and said win the game for us. Now they have a good coach and they're building a system around what they have... defense, solid run game, decent pass game. Short passes.
Only thing that I believe they are missing on is underusing Vernon Davis.
The dude is a future hall of gamer for sure. He is the perfect example of how to properly groom a QB. Draft a quality guy. Put him behind a quality QB to learn from. Give him some time to learn the system. And then more importantly... design the system around what you have.
Brady/Montana/Young are the perfect examples of how to build a system for a QB. Manning and Favre were the system. Brady/Montana/Young had systems build for them. So does Rodgers. The system is built for him not to fail and he doesn't. Perfect play calling. Excellent reads. TONS TONS TONS of time in a HUGE pocket. He knows the system and he uses it. Goes through his reads... no one there.. dump to an RB, not there... out of bounds it goes. He'll run if he has too but not otherwise. It's amazing to watch. He has 3 picks all year and I think 2 of them were receiver errors. That's amazing. I think he'll go all 16 games over 100 rating and then I think they're gonna go in the playoffs and win. Then win the Super Bowl. This team I think doesn't loose.
Friggin amazing.
Where as Alex was not handled correctly and the system was not built for him to succeed. They basically put him out there and said win the game for us. Now they have a good coach and they're building a system around what they have... defense, solid run game, decent pass game. Short passes.
Only thing that I believe they are missing on is underusing Vernon Davis.
But again, you have to view the idea that he was groomed for a few years. Even Flynn, the back up of Rodgers for 3-4 years has been brought up (and seriously ready to take over for more than half of the QBs in the game).
Young sat behind Montana, Rodgers behind Farve, Flynn behind Rodgers. Romo WAS UNDRAFTED sat behind QBs in 2003, upped to #2 QB in '05, became starter in 2006. 3 years behind someone.
There are teams that build good quality QBs. I'm hoping the Harbaugh era creates some soft soil for new QBs to be bread and the winning tradition stays here (you don't need #1 round QB picks to find the right QBs). Look at Flynn, he was drafted 7th ROUND! No one thought he was going to be an NFL QB, and he just flourishes and throws almost as good of darts like Rodgers.
If you want a quality QB that isn't the lucky (and I mean real lucky) rookie like Manning (starting and become as good as he is/was), they have to sit. But the NFL, like many other things aim the game at CHANGE, and CHANGE now, due to the lucrative 40-50mil salaries the teams are paying these guys out of college. If you're paying these QBs 20mil to sit on the bench for 2 years, it isn't happening. But if you're paying a QB who is drafted late, brought up and raised in the NFL the right way, not going to cost you millions a year, it might just be the recipe for beastly QBs.
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Where as Alex was not handled correctly and the system was not built for him to succeed. They basically put him out there and said win the game for us. Now they have a good coach and they're building a system around what they have... defense, solid run game, decent pass game. Short passes.
Only thing that I believe they are missing on is underusing Vernon Davis.[/QUOTE]
I agree that is an ideal situation. Can't say if the niners picked Rodgers the same thing would of happened. However, I believe the system that Harbaugh is running is perfect for Alex Smith. He is making it work, and not being asked to put the team on his back. The couple times were it has come for him to step up he has. This has turned out to be one heck of a season. I am so stoked and hope the Packers lose a few to make the playoffs come through us. Going to start saving just in case, because I want to go to that game in Lambeau if the niners go there for the NFC championship.
Only thing that I believe they are missing on is underusing Vernon Davis.[/QUOTE]
I agree that is an ideal situation. Can't say if the niners picked Rodgers the same thing would of happened. However, I believe the system that Harbaugh is running is perfect for Alex Smith. He is making it work, and not being asked to put the team on his back. The couple times were it has come for him to step up he has. This has turned out to be one heck of a season. I am so stoked and hope the Packers lose a few to make the playoffs come through us. Going to start saving just in case, because I want to go to that game in Lambeau if the niners go there for the NFC championship.