oem oil filter
01-26-2009, 12:15 PM
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but the question is this.... for an extra 2 bucks and oil change is it not better to go with higher quality?
How many motors have you seen damaged due to debris in the oil or poor oil flow? Better safe than sorry I would think.
If your motor is the heart and oil its blood then the cleaner you can have the blood the better. The less blocking its path the better.
I have used fram a couple times but I generally try to go with stock or mobil one. Now I'll be staying away from stock.
How many motors have you seen damaged due to debris in the oil or poor oil flow? Better safe than sorry I would think.
If your motor is the heart and oil its blood then the cleaner you can have the blood the better. The less blocking its path the better.
I have used fram a couple times but I generally try to go with stock or mobil one. Now I'll be staying away from stock.
#1 engine failure that I see is broken ringlands on the 2.5liter & spun rod bearings on the 2.0liter engines.
Here are my observations:
People are worry about an oil filter, yet bolt on all kinds of go fast parts & a tune on a stock motor.
Hell, the stock engine will fail at stock power output.
And few people are will to pay the true costs associated with quality work/parts.
01-26-2009, 12:21 PM
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DAMN! i just bought a royal purple oilf filter, has anybody heard anything about those? i mean i payed 14.99 for it, id figure it would be pretty good (sorry dont mean to thread jack 
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01-26-2009, 01:07 PM
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That's a hard question to answer; what came first, the chicken or the egg?
#1 engine failure that I see is broken ringlands on the 2.5liter & spun rod bearings on the 2.0liter engines.
Here are my observations:
People are worry about an oil filter, yet bolt on all kinds of go fast parts & a tune on a stock motor.
Hell, the stock engine will fail at stock power output.
And few people are will to pay the true costs associated with quality work/parts.
#1 engine failure that I see is broken ringlands on the 2.5liter & spun rod bearings on the 2.0liter engines.
Here are my observations:
People are worry about an oil filter, yet bolt on all kinds of go fast parts & a tune on a stock motor.
Hell, the stock engine will fail at stock power output.
And few people are will to pay the true costs associated with quality work/parts.
I'm always astonished when people will take short cuts at key spots. I'd rather have fewer parts or take longer to compile them and do it right then have a bunch of crap and have to redo things or start over when my cheap stuff causes expensive stuff to fail. But I guess I learned all that in my honda days. Haaaa. But then again I have 140,000 miles on a mostly stock drive line.
I figure might as well get the good stuff at the base level.
01-26-2009, 02:16 PM
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here is the response from SOA that I got
Per your request, I have same information which differentiates the new Subaru/Honeywell Oil Filter (made in Canada) p/n: 15208AA12A from various aftermarket competitors:
1) The new Oil Filter (made in Canada) p/n: 15208AA12A is the OEM line installed filter for all 2.5L and 2.5L turbo engines built at Subaru Indiana Automotive. In order to pass Subaru's rigorous test requirements, the new filter's filtration performance and test specifications were designed so that they far exceeded any aftermarket "one-size-fits-all" filter.
2) The filter's pleated media has variable density paper. The variable density improves the filter's ability to trap contaminants. The variable density paper is more expensive than common aftermarket filter paper.
3) The filter's Relief Valve feature allows oil to flow to the engine even if the filter is clogged. The value's torque setting was tuned by Subaru and Honeywell specifically for Subaru engines.
4) The filter's Anti-Drainback Valve is made of silicone. The silicone material is used for optimum performance and sealing to prevent oil from draining out of filter when engine is shut off. In general, aftermarket filters use lesser materials.
5) The filter's external gasket is a molded P-Ring seal design. The P-Ring design provides superior sealing for solid contact between the filter and engine. Many aftermarket filters use a common lathe cut(non-molded/less expensive) gasket for sealing.
I hope this abbreviated explanation clearly shows that the new Subaru Oil Filter is far superior in overall design and materials to lesser aftermarket products.
-Noah
Per your request, I have same information which differentiates the new Subaru/Honeywell Oil Filter (made in Canada) p/n: 15208AA12A from various aftermarket competitors:
1) The new Oil Filter (made in Canada) p/n: 15208AA12A is the OEM line installed filter for all 2.5L and 2.5L turbo engines built at Subaru Indiana Automotive. In order to pass Subaru's rigorous test requirements, the new filter's filtration performance and test specifications were designed so that they far exceeded any aftermarket "one-size-fits-all" filter.
2) The filter's pleated media has variable density paper. The variable density improves the filter's ability to trap contaminants. The variable density paper is more expensive than common aftermarket filter paper.
3) The filter's Relief Valve feature allows oil to flow to the engine even if the filter is clogged. The value's torque setting was tuned by Subaru and Honeywell specifically for Subaru engines.
4) The filter's Anti-Drainback Valve is made of silicone. The silicone material is used for optimum performance and sealing to prevent oil from draining out of filter when engine is shut off. In general, aftermarket filters use lesser materials.
5) The filter's external gasket is a molded P-Ring seal design. The P-Ring design provides superior sealing for solid contact between the filter and engine. Many aftermarket filters use a common lathe cut(non-molded/less expensive) gasket for sealing.
I hope this abbreviated explanation clearly shows that the new Subaru Oil Filter is far superior in overall design and materials to lesser aftermarket products.
-Noah
or else id get you some
01-26-2009, 02:21 PM
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here is the response from SOA that I got
Per your request, I have same information which differentiates the new Subaru/Honeywell Oil Filter (made in Canada) p/n: 15208AA12A from various aftermarket competitors:
1) The new Oil Filter (made in Canada) p/n: 15208AA12A is the OEM line installed filter for all 2.5L and 2.5L turbo engines built at Subaru Indiana Automotive. In order to pass Subaru's rigorous test requirements, the new filter's filtration performance and test specifications were designed so that they far exceeded any aftermarket "one-size-fits-all" filter.
2) The filter's pleated media has variable density paper. The variable density improves the filter's ability to trap contaminants. The variable density paper is more expensive than common aftermarket filter paper.
3) The filter's Relief Valve feature allows oil to flow to the engine even if the filter is clogged. The value's torque setting was tuned by Subaru and Honeywell specifically for Subaru engines.
4) The filter's Anti-Drainback Valve is made of silicone. The silicone material is used for optimum performance and sealing to prevent oil from draining out of filter when engine is shut off. In general, aftermarket filters use lesser materials.
5) The filter's external gasket is a molded P-Ring seal design. The P-Ring design provides superior sealing for solid contact between the filter and engine. Many aftermarket filters use a common lathe cut(non-molded/less expensive) gasket for sealing.
I hope this abbreviated explanation clearly shows that the new Subaru Oil Filter is far superior in overall design and materials to lesser aftermarket products.
-Noah
Per your request, I have same information which differentiates the new Subaru/Honeywell Oil Filter (made in Canada) p/n: 15208AA12A from various aftermarket competitors:
1) The new Oil Filter (made in Canada) p/n: 15208AA12A is the OEM line installed filter for all 2.5L and 2.5L turbo engines built at Subaru Indiana Automotive. In order to pass Subaru's rigorous test requirements, the new filter's filtration performance and test specifications were designed so that they far exceeded any aftermarket "one-size-fits-all" filter.
2) The filter's pleated media has variable density paper. The variable density improves the filter's ability to trap contaminants. The variable density paper is more expensive than common aftermarket filter paper.
3) The filter's Relief Valve feature allows oil to flow to the engine even if the filter is clogged. The value's torque setting was tuned by Subaru and Honeywell specifically for Subaru engines.
4) The filter's Anti-Drainback Valve is made of silicone. The silicone material is used for optimum performance and sealing to prevent oil from draining out of filter when engine is shut off. In general, aftermarket filters use lesser materials.
5) The filter's external gasket is a molded P-Ring seal design. The P-Ring design provides superior sealing for solid contact between the filter and engine. Many aftermarket filters use a common lathe cut(non-molded/less expensive) gasket for sealing.
I hope this abbreviated explanation clearly shows that the new Subaru Oil Filter is far superior in overall design and materials to lesser aftermarket products.
-Noah
01-26-2009, 02:23 PM
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I await a better response, or just say it ITS CHEAPER AND THATS WHY WE ARE DOING IT. my $0.02
-Noah
I await a better response, or just say it ITS CHEAPER AND THATS WHY WE ARE DOING IT. my $0.02
-Noah