krzyxrevver12

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"this is yo momma" "wun thowsand dallars cache munnnie!!!!"

brucelee

iTrader: (6)

Exactly.

Lack of comunication... Be clear and up front!

dr3d1zzl3

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all i have to say is that IMO GS shouldnt have done what they did for this douchebag. Guess it shows why they are the bomb shop and "dres house of wrenchin" aint..

You have to give it to gs and crew for going out of their way when they prob shouldnt have. ESP since this douchebag was such a cockbanger about things. PS **** YOU ***** (to slow***)

1WRX2NV

iTrader: (15)

Exactly.

you need to talk about it right away...exactly

slow04wrx

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I didn't answer anyones post because people said ridiculous **** on here so I thought forget it, and wasn't going to post except to give gruppes a good word for taking care of things once it was fully finished but you guys hating and talking **** have forced me to post early. I contacted gruppe-s imediately when this happend the very day of, to answer your question. And posted this over 2 weeks after. I originally posted this because I had the notion forums were for peoples experiences and to allow fellow car people to check and see what others had to say, real world experiences, I know i do this before I get my car worked on, or certain parts. I wanted to post my review of what happened so other people can see you have to be careful no matter where you car is worked at even if it's one of the best. So anyway gruppes is making things right, and I want to thank them for that.

dr3d1zzl3

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Not only do you try and talk **** but you are ****ing dumb as well

https://www.i-club.com/reviews/showcat.php/cat/3


PS dont try and spin **** after the fact, you went out like a the little whiny spoiled ***** you are. Now you are just trying to save face because you "sorta feel bad" for **** talking.

slow04wrx

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Dude you are an idiot. I'm not trying to save face, get off my ****ing back you punk *****. I posted what i posted because it was teh truth, so **** you, you don't know ****. And as far as bein spoiled go **** urself, i pay for my car boy you don't even know me.

Roo

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If I'm doing 100 down the road and something happens, I know who to blame. I also know how to control my vehicle if something does happen, and yes, I've driven a Subie whose s/s line was worn through. YES, you still have braking power, even when the resevoir is empty. So unless you're doing something insanely stupid, you should be able to bring your car to a controlled stop.

If you are doing something insanely stupid, then you deserve whatever happens...it's just too bad that the innocent people whose lives you'd ruin DON'T deserve it.

Roo

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If you truly believe this...then you need to do one of two things:

1. Re-define what you consider "conservative driving".

2. Learn emergency vehicle control at a professional driving school, who will teach you how to react when you lose braking power.

I've experienced loss of braking pressure in a Subaru. I drove conservatively, KNOWING that I didn't have braking power, and knew that the s/s line was worn through (similar fashion to OP).

I drove 35 miles to my house with it in that condition. Never had a problem. Subaru braking systems don't simply "go out" and you have NOTHING to stop you. They are built so you can still stop, but at a much longer distance. I'm not talking about coasting to a stop, I'm talking about having the braking pressure to stop.

wombatsauce

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So... Just to recap:

- It doesn't matter what happened at any shop, if you drive 100mph and something happens - it's your fault.
- Even with a severed caliper brake line and no fluid in the reservoir, you still have brake pressure
- If you crash it's your fault regardless of any mechanical failure.
- Because you chose to drive a car with no brakes 35 miles and didn't kill anyone means that.. Wait what does this mean?
- Shops have no liability, we just need to learn how to drive our cars with critical systems incapacitated.

This is what I got out of your posts.

I will say that I agree with you that if you do something insanely stupid and crash you basically get what's coming to you.

mudman

Driving 35 miles with a severed brake line??, what if some emergency had occured on the road ahead???? what if some dumb kid had stepped out in front of you???

Sounds like you need to follow your own advice and learn a little about when it is safe to operate a vehicle and when it is not.

projectwrx

bump for more drama

gruppe-s

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Wow, this is getting excessive.

Fact:

-This matter has already been settled between Gruppe-S and the poster.
-Presently, there is not conclusive evidence that 100% of the fault in this incident is because of a faulty install done by Gruppe-S.

Is this necessary? What does saying that accomplish? Can you back that up? I take that quite personally and find it hard to respect someone who would make such a bitter and slanderous (and quite untrue) remark such as that.

MODS, CAN WE PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD? I don't see what purpose it's presently serving as this matter has already been resolved.

Thanks,

Geoff

Roo

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- If you're driving at speeds of 100 mph on a public highway (which the person claimed HIGHWAY, not TRACK), and something happens, it IS your fault.
- Even with a severed line, and no fluid in the resevoir...there is a small amount of pressure left. Not a lot, but if you drive EXTREMELY carefully, you CAN stop the vehicle.
- If you crash, there are a variety of factors that can be involved. Being unaware of what is around you, speed, fatigue and alcohol can all be factors...which are YOUR actions/fault.
- Because I drove 35 miles home SAFELY... that means the car CAN be driven CAREFULLY so that the OP isn't stranded as he seems to think he is. If he's a capable/competent driver, he can SLOWLY make his way to safety.
- I don't say anything about shops not having liability. It's a matter of his reactions and posts that are ignorant and not the truth which I'm calling him on.

Roo

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If you're using defensive driving techniques...you're reading the road at least 1/4 mile ahead. That allows you plenty of time to slow down...