This is just a rear sway right? you didn't get one for the front? Can you comment on the changes to driving dynamics as a whole? Like during the onset of the turn where most subies are known to push does the rear just slide out easily (which is to say, slightly since most sways still retain that god awful pushing problem)?

 

saw this in person last week. awesome fab, looks like it should work wonders!

 

Gagan + 285's + Oversteer = Trophy

 

Mikey is a smart guy...
For people who don't know him

 

madre de dios!

 

Now, before I answer, I want to state that I'm not a suspension guru, and I can only talk about what I see and feel with my car, and my experiences. Although I'm definitely not a noob at this anymore, there are many theories about this stuff, and I may not be completely correct.

At turn in, my car does not, even still, exhibit what I would call oversteer. It follows the front of the car (which I learned from Intl B a long time ago is what you should worry about most) well due to mostly the alignment settings that I've found over the years to work best on my car. This is that at least 1 deg of neg camber, and at least 1/16th of toe out, will, get the car under, neural acceleration, to follow the front of the car.

I don't feel that GC/GM or GD chassis cars can inherently have oversteer, even a little, at turn in, at least not while accelerating. We find that usually before a turn we are either braking to slow down for the turn, lifing or if we are accelerating, we aren't going all that fast, or slow enough to make the turn just fine.

At the limit, usually, it's just too fast to get the car to rotate into the turn, we usually get push. Now, when I drive, I tend to either brake some or lift before turning the wheel. This is cause I know from experience, i can't make the car rotate while pressing the gas pedal down and if i'm already moving at a good rate.

So, I find that weight transfer is key in making our cars turn well, and turn into the turn. I feel that even if I had a 1000lb/in bar in the rear, it would only make lift oversteer unbearable, and would not really net me any help at turn in. I find that turn is more a function of the alignment, and weight placement of the car. (ie: weight is lifted from the rear to the front.)

So, maybe it's possible, but I don't see how. Our cars are just too good at keeping the tire down, and the weight back. I never had issues with rotation until I switched to wide wheels and tires. The more grip I added, the more the grip went to the back. No matter what I did, the rear of my car was just planted.

So, I look at what works for Madlib, and try to mimic the parts. So far, I can honestly say that the bar is working just great! It's just the best bar i've had. It's so smoothing and progressive. It doesn't snap at you, and when you feed in some gas again, it nicely tightens up.

Sorry if I went on a tanget or anything. I'm always willing to help, just ask.

 

Lets hope someday I can make back to winning ways. I think I'm not far now. I just need to tidy up the odds and ends, and then keep working at it. The car is still DSP powered, and all, and not even prepped to DSP rules, I'm waaaaay behind in comparison to SM cars. But I'm not that far back being on street tires. I know I can improve more in the car. Most importantly, I need to improve myself.

 

You like that huh?

 

Hey that is more like an anti-sway PIPE!
Can't even call it a bar.
BTW that old 27 mm Whiteline gets my car sideways quite nicely, thanks.

 

So that's how you finally got oversteer on a Suby!

 

Yes! Aaron took it for a spin wednesday night. International B Approved

 

YES! its more than approved... its the most awesome thing ever.

 

You gotta take me out for that lesson you gave your lady in driving our cars.