Man dies after BART officer shooting (was: I really hope this ain't true...)
01-15-2009, 12:16 PM
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Yeah right. You wish that's all he'll get. With the evidence and eyewitnesses against him, there's no way he can beat this case at trial. He's most likely going to plead guilty to a 2nd degree Murder and serve 5-7yrs.
01-15-2009, 12:29 PM
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I think with all the media coverage, it's going to be very difficult for them to find a non biased jury.
Not only that, the DA sounds like they're trying to make an example out of him. He'll do some time for sure.
Not only that, the DA sounds like they're trying to make an example out of him. He'll do some time for sure.
01-15-2009, 12:34 PM
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DA: did you see the officer shoot the victim
Witness: yes
DA: Is this person in the courtroom currently?
Witness: yes
DA: can you point to the person you saw shoot the victom?
Witness: Yes (points to the defendant)
DA: your witness
Defense: Do you like crack?
Witness: yes
Defense: were you smoking crack the night you saw the shooting?
Witness: yes
Defense: are you high on crack now?
Witness: yes
Defense: no further questions your honor.
Witness: yes
DA: Is this person in the courtroom currently?
Witness: yes
DA: can you point to the person you saw shoot the victom?
Witness: Yes (points to the defendant)
DA: your witness
Defense: Do you like crack?
Witness: yes
Defense: were you smoking crack the night you saw the shooting?
Witness: yes
Defense: are you high on crack now?
Witness: yes
Defense: no further questions your honor.
01-15-2009, 12:34 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised to see this trial get moved somewhere else. And I'd be surprised to see him get 2nd degree. Voluntary manslaughter maybe.
Have you seen the bart security footage? Heard police witnesses?
I'd be surprised if he gets sentenced to more than 3-5 years and he'll end up in the posh wing with a PS3 and a TV. If he's wise he'll educate himself for a change of career.
01-15-2009, 12:47 PM
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I think the biggest problems will be.
Defense.
Witnesses.
Publicity. (unbiased jury)
yellow taser tip, cross carried
video is powerful and one is pointed strait at them and very clear
2 years on the force (young/inexperienced)
Prosecution
Depending one what they go for... proving GROSS negligence and/or criminal intent.
If the BART video shows something we don't see now
He's a cop. Inexperience could play in favor.
He's cooperating and showing remorse.
I wonder if there is still and opening for a plea deal and staying out of court and the media...
01-15-2009, 12:55 PM
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01-15-2009, 01:02 PM
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