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09-10-2008, 12:50 PM

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jr had defence and offence

bummer it would have pulled baseball out of the slump after the strike

So did Bonds, all time home run kind, 8 time gold glove winner, 7 time MVP including 4 straight, not to mention the all time and single season HR and walks/intentional walks records.

09-10-2008, 12:53 PM

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So did Bonds, all time home run kind, 8 time gold glove winner, 7 time MVP including 4 straight, not to mention the all time and single season HR and walks/intentional walks records.

he stopped playing defence in the 90s haha

09-10-2008, 12:53 PM

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i mean your word is good enough for me

but there are others reading so put up a link

Im not going to search through it, but Im about 98% sure he was named in the Mitchell Report.

09-10-2008, 12:55 PM

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Are you kidding me? Gibson hit the home run on the juice. The game was irrepreably damaged long before Bonds juiced. Everyone did it, everyone lied. Dont hate Bonds just becuase he was the best.

Well, in that respect steroids doesn't help the bat make contact with the ball. Just makes the ball fly further.

09-10-2008, 12:55 PM

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he stopped playing defence in the 90s haha

Defense?

And thats not true at all.

09-10-2008, 12:59 PM

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Well, in that respect steroids doesn't help the bat make contact with the ball. Just makes the ball fly further.

It also makes the ball come out of the pitchers hand faster and allows breaking pitches to be thrown at a much higher velocity. Your point?

09-10-2008, 01:03 PM

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Defense?

And thats not true at all.

OMG so many ***** bounced infront of him that could have been caught by another player

09-10-2008, 01:06 PM

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OMG so many ***** bounced infront of him that could have been caught by another player

Yeah, last year and the year before, but not in 2000-2004. You seem to have a short memory. Remember 2003? When the Giants led wire to wire inly to be knocked out by the Marlins due to the fact Jose Cruz Jr can't catch a damn flyball.

09-10-2008, 01:06 PM

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Im not going to search through it, but Im about 98% sure he was named in the Mitchell Report.

i checked a few pages and nada

09-10-2008, 01:07 PM

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how about when he left in the 8th inning at the end of the season because he wouldnt bat again?

09-10-2008, 01:08 PM

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09-10-2008, 02:13 PM

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09-10-2008, 02:14 PM

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i checked a few pages and nada

Maybe it was Canseco who accused him, regardless, he was a juicer.

09-10-2008, 02:15 PM

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how about when he left in the 8th inning at the end of the season because he wouldnt bat again?

What does his character have to do with his ability as a baseball player?

Also, now with Manny "Im not playing hard in Boston unless you don't pick up my option for next year" Ramirez you are in no position to question his character or effort on the field.