just got pulled over leaving wingstop state ref !
10-02-2008, 12:12 AM
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10-02-2008, 12:16 AM
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Look what I found:
27150.2 (b)
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27150_2.htm
Can't believe that it's still in there! This means that if you can find the testing procedures stated there, and show your exhaust complies and get that in writing from a CHP office, then you should be in good shape.
27150.2 (b)
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27150_2.htm
Can't believe that it's still in there! This means that if you can find the testing procedures stated there, and show your exhaust complies and get that in writing from a CHP office, then you should be in good shape.
Sucks you have to get cited to get certified, it would be great to be able to upgrade your exhaust, get that setup certified, and have your paperwork ready in case SJPD or another local agency decides it needs to do an enforcement push.
10-02-2008, 07:24 AM
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As far as searches, ask politely what the exact probable cause is :
http://www.chp.ca.gov/pdf/media/01-10.pdf
http://www.chp.ca.gov/pdf/media/01-10.pdf
True that does suck... I wonder if there is anyone out there who is certified or official that has a dB meter, or if it would even help to have test results from your car's system in your car (I am thinking not).
10-02-2008, 07:42 AM
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10-02-2008, 09:17 AM
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27150?
Those are correctable, just go to court for an arraignment with the corrections signed off by any officer, the judge should take care of it.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27150.htm
Those are correctable, just go to court for an arraignment with the corrections signed off by any officer, the judge should take care of it.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27150.htm
Thx for ur help GaGaN bhaaji
10-02-2008, 09:51 AM
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If you bring it up in court; you would exemplify this by getting the judge to agree that officers use radar guns to get an 'accurate' (objective) mph reading, rather than their visual perception to get an 'accurate' (subjective) mph reading.
10-02-2008, 10:00 AM
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Told you. You can get the ticket over and over again, at least under section (b) you can get a cert and then you're good to go I think. The cop could still give you a ref ticket if they want to though, the cert is more for court than for the cop.
10-02-2008, 10:02 AM
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Its the officers 'Subjective' judgement, which is not based on an actual measurement, just their "trained ear". The way to defeat that is to use 'Objective' judgement, aka measured data, aka a Db test at a ref station.
If you bring it up in court; you would exemplify this by getting the judge to agree that officers use radar guns to get an 'accurate' (objective) mph reading, rather than their visual perception to get an 'accurate' (subjective) mph reading.
If you bring it up in court; you would exemplify this by getting the judge to agree that officers use radar guns to get an 'accurate' (objective) mph reading, rather than their visual perception to get an 'accurate' (subjective) mph reading.
Now, a cop would win if was "pacing you", his word against yours. Highly subjective, but he will win every time.
10-02-2008, 10:03 AM
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that's wat i thought that they were both correctable but the officer marked on the ticket that the Blow off valve is correctable and the exhaust one is non correctable. I never understood that. But I will just put my stock blow off valve on and put stock downpipe on and see if i pass the state ref check.
Thx for ur help GaGaN bhaaji
Thx for ur help GaGaN bhaaji
Oh, BTW, you don't have a state ref ticket! It's just a fix it ticket if it's 27150. Check the ticket for the CVC again.
10-02-2008, 11:21 AM
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Can I sell my car while i still have this ticket and not clear it?