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Old 03-17-2011 | 01:31 PM
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The water there is probably warmer than here. Our water comes down from the Artic. Their water comes up from the equator. Similar to why the East Coast has warmer water than the West Coast.
Yeah, lol... CA would be fine in this situation because our water will cool down ANYTHING.
Old 03-17-2011 | 01:32 PM
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Yeah, lol... CA would be fine in this situation because our water will cool down ANYTHING.
Yea
Old 03-17-2011 | 01:32 PM
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Interesting read about why japanese people don't loot in times like these
http://www.slate.com/id/2288514/
WOW! Now if that happened here, the world would end... Pretty sure about it.
Old 03-17-2011 | 02:51 PM
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looks like they almost restored power to the plants. Everything is stable right now, restored power will make things better.
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http://whatonearth.olehnielsen.dk/currents.asp

thermohaline circulation described on the link regarding water temps...

shows that cold and deep, high salinity currents flow by Japan, but not sure about current temps. cause there's somewhat conflicting data below as well. i would seriously volunteer a week of my time, take off work, fly over there to help with anything i can, but not while this radiation stuff is going on.


The Oyashio Current
(also named 'Oya Siwo') is a cold subarctic ocean current that flows south and circulates counterclockwise in the western North Pacific Ocean. It collides with the Kuroshio Current off the eastern shore of Japan to form the North Pacific Current.

The Kuroshio Current
is the world's second-largest (after the Gulf Stream) ocean current. It is found in the western Pacific Ocean off the east coast of Taiwan and flowing northeastward past Japan, where it merges with the easterly drift of the North Pacific Current. It is analogous to the Gulf Stream in the Atlantic Ocean, transporting warm, tropical water northward towards the polar region. Kuroshio means Black Stream in Japanese - an allusion to the deep blue colour of its water. It's also sometimes known as the Japan Current.

It is a swift, intense current with an average sea surface temperature of 24°C (at surface only though, pretty warm). The Kuroshio is the western portion of a giant clockwise, horizontal circulation known as the North Pacific subtropical gyre. This circulation extends from 15° to 45°N across the entire width of the Pacific Ocean. It is driven by the large-scale winds the trades in the south and the westerlies in the north. As with all other western boundary currents, such as the Gulf Stream, the effect of the Earth's rotation and its spherical shape is to concentrate the Kuroshio flow into a current that is only about 100 km wide with speeds up to 2 m/s.

Kuroshio Current does not only have a large effect on the hydrological conditions around Japan, and is important for fishery and marine transportation, but it also affects large-scale climate around Japan, carrying much heat from the tropics. Although the previously accepted theory assumes that the large-scale wind over the Pacific Ocean drives the current, it is also possible to assume that the current drives the wind. However, the effect of Kuroshio Current on the wind had not been clearly understood.

In the recent twenty years, the Kuroshio path moved periodically, possibly (partly?) due to el Niño and la Niña events. The North Equatorial Current is weak during the period when la Niña is observed in western equatorial Pacific.

ohh, and the radiation cloud is scheduled to hit N.A. tomorrow i read somewhere... nothing to worry about.

good read on that link posted too, another thing to note is that they have like a 90-95% rate of 2 parent households and a much lower divorce rate than the u.s.'s average of 65% (95% of those incarcerated are from single parent households). another thing not really mentioned is that their main religions are buddhist and shinto, which drive these values. and usually, cultural values turn into law if enough people believe in them.

Also, with regard to looting, Police aren't the only ones on patrol since the earthquake hit. Members of the Yakuza, Japan's organized crime syndicate, have also been enforcing order. All three major crime groups—the Yamaguchi-gumi, the Sumiyoshi-kai, and the Inagawa-kai—have "compiled squads to patrol the streets of their turf and keep an eye out to make sure looting and robbery doesn't occur,"

Even during times of peace, the Yakuza enforce order. They make their money off extortion, prostitution, and drug trafficking. But they consider theft grounds for expulsion.

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Old 03-17-2011 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NorCalPaintball
http://whatonearth.olehnielsen.dk/currents.asp

thermohaline circulation described on the link regarding water temps...

shows that cold and deep, high salinity currents flow by Japan, but not sure about current temps. cause there's somewhat conflicting data below as well. i would seriously volunteer a week of my time, take off work, fly over there to help with anything i can, but not while this radiation stuff is going on.
Deep being the key word there. That just means the fishing is really good cause of the amount of nutrients that current brings up there. But the surface water follows the gulf stream, which travels south along the coast of California, gets down to the equator, warms up and then travels north along the coast of Asia (A clockwise pattern). This would be the majority of the water felt by people that got hit with it. Not exactly swimming temperatures, but not as cold as it is here currently.
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Originally Posted by bluwrxwgn
Deep being the key word there. That just means the fishing is really good cause of the amount of nutrients that current brings up there. But the surface water follows the gulf stream, which travels south along the coast of California, gets down to the equator, warms up and then travels north along the coast of Asia (A clockwise pattern). This would be the majority of the water felt by people that got hit with it. Not exactly swimming temperatures, but not as cold as it is here currently.
i also read though, that humans can by hypothermic in 80 degree F water if in it long enough.
and also, i think we're only talking northern cali, cause santa barbara and south, the water if fairly warm also and isn't as cold as up here.

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Old 03-17-2011 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NorCalPaintball
i also read though, that humans can by hypothermic in 80 degree F water if in it long enough.
and also, i think we're only talking northern cali, cause santa barbara and south, the water if fairly warm also and isn't as cold as up here.
Depends on your definition of cold. I've surfed in Socal in the winter and required a 3/2 wetsuit. Not the 5/4 you'd need here, but it's far from warm. Just think that the further the current is from the Artic circle, the warmer the water would be. So yea, between here and say San Diego, there'd be a pretty good temperature difference.

But yea, any of the survivor's who didn't make it to any dry area to dry off most likely didn't make it if subjected to being in the water for that long of time.
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US to Voluntarily Evac Military Dependents, Non-Essential, then Essential Personnel

Posted on 3/17/11 on Navy Times, a a weekly newspaper serving active, reserve and retired United States Navy personnel and their families.

Watch the video featuring Capt. Eric Gardner, USN Commanding Officer, U.S. Naval Air Facility Atsugi, Japan. They are beginning a military-assisted, VOLUNTARY evacuation of military dependents (women and children first). After that will be non-essential staff, then essential personne, and then the CO should the need arise. In the mean time, they will continue Operation Tomodachi.

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/0...-japan-031711/

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Operation Tomodachi? So they are drinking plum wine and sake?
Old 03-18-2011 | 01:19 AM
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A few minor victories in hard times:
- A road rapidly repaired after quake damage (photo attached).

- A non-alarmist, well thought-out video describing the Hukushima situation to children. It's strangely touching, actually (props to Gagan for showing this one to me):
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Old 03-18-2011 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Choku Dori
- A non-alarmist, well thought-out video describing the Hukushima situation to children. It's strangely touching, actually (props to Gagan for showing this one to me):
LOL. My kendo buddies and I laughed at the innovative way a nuclear meltdown was explained to kids (in terms of bowel movements).

On a more serious note, it is probably the best way in order not to scare the kids.
Old 03-18-2011 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Choku Dori
A few minor victories in hard times:
- A road rapidly repaired after quake damage (photo attached).

- A non-alarmist, well thought-out video describing the Hukushima situation to children. It's strangely touching, actually (props to Gagan for showing this one to me):

That picture is not of the same section.

Look at the trees.
Old 03-18-2011 | 12:57 PM
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ARGH... just talked to a lady who bought a zillion iodine tablets and was urging me to do the same. She ****ing smokes 2 packs a day and shes worried about getting radiation poisoning on the west coast. smh man


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