If Marijuana has so many medical benefits, why isn't it legalized for medical use?

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Old 12-29-2010 | 10:46 AM
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Alcohol and Marijuana aren't aloud to be in the same sentence. Unless you'd like to hand me some Herb and a Blue Moon, in which case I shall oblige.
weed then beer, never fear. beer than weed, the dogs you'll feed :3
Old 12-29-2010 | 11:08 AM
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weed is legal u just have to get the card, its like a drivers license and u just need to get it so they cant bust you, its like a get out of jail free card.
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This is a great topic of debate. The bigger question is why the media doesn't cover a controversial topic such as this. There are plausible arguments on both ends, but I never hear of topics on news channels. Uncle Sam covers his own *** on that end too.

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Main reasons why its still illegal:

- Pharmaceutical corporations control politicians ($$$)
- Tobacco and alcohol corporations control politicians ($$$)
- DEA has to have something to do to keep its inflated funding ($$$)
- Privatized prisons are big business and legalizing means much fewer prisoners and less funding ($$$)
- Old outdated propaganda instilling fear in the public to feed the lobbying corporations ($$$)


What do all of these have in common? $$$

This is the problem with a system where politicians care more about their wallets than the public's interests.

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Old 12-29-2010 | 12:58 PM
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if there's widespread legalization of marijuana, i'm investing in funyuns.
Old 12-29-2010 | 12:59 PM
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if there's widespread legalization of marijuana, i'm investing in funyuns.
There's an idea... maybe we can get all the junk food companies to band together and lobby for this?

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Old 12-29-2010 | 01:02 PM
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my friend had lung cancer and took the pure thc in pill form, he said it helped him through the kemo a lot. helped with his pain and appetite.

you don't have to smoke it only.

my main concern is that everyone grows differently too, some chemical additives cannot be good for you to smoke and possibly the little critters that live on the plants either. or mold, fungus or other things that grow.

just like any product, weed is definitely not all the same.

but like stated above, it is definitley all politics.

how do you think every underground (illegal) grower and even most legit growers voted? i'm guessing that they all voted against it's legalization.

but, it was first banned because illegal immigrants (mostly Mexican) in California were beginning to sell and make a good amount of non-taxable money from it and the Californian politicians at the time were not pleased about it. alongside the tabacco lobbyists from the east coast.

that's when all the marijana is the devil adds came out with the crazy *** propoganda. but.... i believe either philip morris or rj reynolds has recently purchased a large amount of land in northern california in case it is legalized... it's all money and politics...

if you were a huge pharmaceutical manufacturer, you'd be against it too, unless you can get a piece of the pie. also, what industry do you think just gives away free product the most out of any other industry in recorded history? yep. pharmaceuticals. that treat people's symptoms, and not the root cause. sh*tton loads of money in this stuff.. you'd be surprised. they get stuff passed by the FDA expedited with fees, that most other companies cannot afford, so the big companies beat smaller ones to market and get people hooked on their drug. sh*t is crazy, i don't even want to think about it.

but... i believe all drug companies, old republicans, all growers and pot businesses, voted against it's legalization, because it directly affects their pocketbooks. I bet a lot of pot smokers didn't even vote, i know about 5.
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What about the health risks associated with smoking?
What about living with pain instead of living in a fog?
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
What about the health risks associated with smoking?
What about living with pain instead of living in a fog?
What about the health risks and long term effects associated with smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol, consuming large amounts of caffeine, or taking prescription medications? Have you ever known anyone who was addicted to pain meds? Talk about living in a fog! What about the health risks of eating junk food?

Yet those are all perfectly legal and accepted? Why?

Because large corporations make tons of money from it and pay off politicians to keep it that way.

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completely agreed. my sister is a naturalpath doctor. she would agree that a serious amount of meds on the market today are horrible, but we just don't know long term affects because they've been raced to market to treat a group of symptom sufferers...

and like stated above, you don't only have to smoke it. and the pain definitley doesn't completely go away. also, there's a limit to it... you don't have to smoke an oz a day.

it's like any drug, a lot of people abuse it... my aunt had no clue how bad perc is to get off of, she is now living with extreme withdrawls.

people say it's all bad, then go straight to McDonalds for lunch... LOL

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What I was getting at was pro pot folks claim weed is a wonderful alternative to big pharma without addressing the downside to smoking weed.
I'm sure it works for some and I couldn't care less if people smoke pot.
But, there is always two sides to any medication.

Want to know the reason why any law is created?
Follow.
The.
Money.

It's never about protecting the populace, or the environment, or the baby whales.
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$$ and Power. Go hand in hand, get more power when you get more money, and the government enjoys power.
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
What I was getting at was pro pot folks claim weed is a wonderful alternative to big pharma without addressing the downside to smoking weed.
Obviously smoke inhalation carries health risks - it's up to the user to weigh the pros and cons of whether or not to consume it. Plus you don't have to smoke it, you can eat it.
Old 12-29-2010 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
What I was getting at was pro pot folks claim weed is a wonderful alternative to big pharma without addressing the downside to smoking weed.
I'm sure it works for some and I couldn't care less if people smoke pot.
But, there is always two sides to any medication.
I don't think anyone here claimed that smoking weed, or anything else for that matter, doesn't have its negatives. Many people, however, do believe that using marijuana responsibly has less negative effects than other substances and medications that are fully legal and accepted in our society. Just about everything has negative and positive effects and its important to educate people about them and let them decide what they want or don't want to do.

The people who claim that its the end all replacement for modern medicine and has no negative effects at all clearly have their heads up their asses and should not be considered in a serious discussion on the subject. I will say, however, at least these people are not driven purely by profit motive like some other extremists.

Want to know the reason why any law is created?
Follow.
The.
Money.

It's never about protecting the populace, or the environment, or the baby whales.
This is no secret, but is this system advantageous to mankind's long term success or is it just feeding the corrupt and allowing them to become increasingly corrupt?

-- Ed
Old 12-29-2010 | 02:37 PM
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This topic has pretty much been beaten to death. Regardless, I don't really care why/if it's legal. I never really got why people are so obsessed with legalizing it. Why can't people just find something else to do? What's wrong with the population that we spend so much energy focusing on how we can get substances legalized rather than just enjoying our lives sober? I get the argument that alcohol is way worse and it's legal, etc. But just because it's "less bad" doesn't mean it's "good". Just because tobacco is legal doesn't mean that it's a good thing and we should be seeking to legalize more comparable substances.

I don't really care either way, as long as you keep it away from me, because it literally makes me nauseous. I think if one more person lights up on the lift next to me, I'm going to push them off.



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