I need to purchase a few bullet proof vests
01-06-2007, 10:01 PM
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Same area or same hole?
Originally Posted by c32c7
All body armor becomes useless after taking about 2 shots in the same area anyways. And most people shooting at you aren't just gonna shoot once. 
I suggest your brother invest in a good rifle and some running shoes and stick with the vest he's got.
I suggest your brother invest in a good rifle and some running shoes and stick with the vest he's got.We shot this thing about 15 times at a distance of about 7 yards with calibers ranging from 9mm to .45. It stopped everything. We're all really good shots and the grouping was tight. So unless you fired in the exact same place multiple times it ain't getting through. Then I took my buddies M14 socom variant and it penetrated both sides of the vest and trauma plate like it was made out of paper. After we blasted away at it for a while the vest was unrecognizable.
If you want to stop rifle rounds you need something that can hold a ballistic plate. Most tactical vests are set up for that. Of course you could just take your vest carrier to a seamstress and have them make a custom pouch front and back to hold plates. Keep in mind, even the newest ceramic plates are heavy and uncomfortable. Of course this only protects your sternum and the center of your back...everything else is fair game for a rifle round.
01-06-2007, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisnonstop
Some of my buddies from work and I went out for a day of shooting. I brought one of my very old Safari Land level II-A vests. This thing was about 15 years old. I bought it used a few years back. Really thin vest and comfortable.
We shot this thing about 15 times at a distance of about 7 yards with calibers ranging from 9mm to .45. It stopped everything. We're all really good shots and the grouping was tight. So unless you fired in the exact same place multiple times it ain't getting through. Then I took my buddies M14 socom variant and it penetrated both sides of the vest and trauma plate like it was made out of paper. After we blasted away at it for a while the vest was unrecognizable.
If you want to stop rifle rounds you need something that can hold a ballistic plate. Most tactical vests are set up for that. Of course you could just take your vest carrier to a seamstress and have them make a custom pouch front and back to hold plates. Keep in mind, even the newest ceramic plates are heavy and uncomfortable. Of course this only protects your sternum and the center of your back...everything else is fair game for a rifle round.
We shot this thing about 15 times at a distance of about 7 yards with calibers ranging from 9mm to .45. It stopped everything. We're all really good shots and the grouping was tight. So unless you fired in the exact same place multiple times it ain't getting through. Then I took my buddies M14 socom variant and it penetrated both sides of the vest and trauma plate like it was made out of paper. After we blasted away at it for a while the vest was unrecognizable.
If you want to stop rifle rounds you need something that can hold a ballistic plate. Most tactical vests are set up for that. Of course you could just take your vest carrier to a seamstress and have them make a custom pouch front and back to hold plates. Keep in mind, even the newest ceramic plates are heavy and uncomfortable. Of course this only protects your sternum and the center of your back...everything else is fair game for a rifle round.
I worked with a prof. in the ballistics lab at berkeley, newer body armor is designed to take 1 shot really, basically the mesh inside the vest bunches up to absorb the energy of the bullet, sortta like catching a ball in a net
01-07-2007, 12:20 PM
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First hand experience...
Originally Posted by ucbsti
lol..dont take this guys word
I worked with a prof. in the ballistics lab at berkeley, newer body armor is designed to take 1 shot really, basically the mesh inside the vest bunches up to absorb the energy of the bullet, sortta like catching a ball in a net
I worked with a prof. in the ballistics lab at berkeley, newer body armor is designed to take 1 shot really, basically the mesh inside the vest bunches up to absorb the energy of the bullet, sortta like catching a ball in a net
I can only report on what I have first hand experience with. I agree that new body armor is designed to take one shot from a round listed in it's level of protection. This is so that an Officer that's been peppered with rounds can't sue when a few of those rounds end up zipping through the vest.
However, I do speak from first hand experience. I actually did this. Not someone I know, or someone I was standing next to, it was me, my gun, and my buddies guns. I challenge anyone with a vest to shoot it multiple times over with rounds it's designated to protect against...report back here and tell us all what the results are.
Oh yea...lol.
01-07-2007, 12:26 PM
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