Here's why you don't txt while driving
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Actually, they CAN prove it was a factor because they know the time of the accident and the time the last TXT was sent by the driver. He was traveling at 55mph when he hit the truck and had sent a TXT within a minute of the accident. At 55mph, 1 minute is a LOT of ground covered even if he was fully aware of the situation and reacting correctly.
That does not excuse the subsequent failure of the two bus drivers after the fact. It is entirely possible the first bus driver is responsible for the kid's death, as the kid could have survived the initial crash and been killed by the bus. Even with working brakes, a fully loaded bus is not going to stop on a dime.
I'm against distracted driving, especially txt/phone distraction (I HATE it when people think they are "hands free" when they CB-radio their cell phones). But this incident is clearly more an issue of the school buses and the victims. BAD example of txt'ing problem.
The problem with txting, is that all txting incidents will be very hard to prove they were the cause. Mere seconds separate being at a stop light, and crossing an intersection when it turns gree.
The problem with txting, is that all txting incidents will be very hard to prove they were the cause. Mere seconds separate being at a stop light, and crossing an intersection when it turns gree.
That does not excuse the subsequent failure of the two bus drivers after the fact. It is entirely possible the first bus driver is responsible for the kid's death, as the kid could have survived the initial crash and been killed by the bus. Even with working brakes, a fully loaded bus is not going to stop on a dime.
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If some dumb kid wouldn't have been texting and rear ended a semi truck, there would be no accident. Its his fault, and because of his sudden/abrupt crash, he subsequently was rear ended by a large bus. This kind of crash happens all the time and its impossible and ridiculous to blame some public school bus driver for this.
So the buses brakes were not "brand new" big whoop, by the looks of the photo there were not in a "residential" area so im sure the speed-limit was not 25mph, probably something more along the lines of 45-65. Normally if you were about to rear end someone in a CAR, you would swerve one way or another so you have ample room to stop, and just in case, you can get away from the car in front of you. Its a little tougher for a full size bus (with no seat-belts im sure) to do this with a cabin full of yound children without them ending up on the floor, or thru the windshield.
My thoughts, 110%, no questions about it, its the dumb ***'s who was texting's fault, and his family should just file bankruptcy now because the parents of the the 15 year old who DIED as a result of his lack of intelligence should file an enormous lawsuit against them.
Just my thoughts
So the buses brakes were not "brand new" big whoop, by the looks of the photo there were not in a "residential" area so im sure the speed-limit was not 25mph, probably something more along the lines of 45-65. Normally if you were about to rear end someone in a CAR, you would swerve one way or another so you have ample room to stop, and just in case, you can get away from the car in front of you. Its a little tougher for a full size bus (with no seat-belts im sure) to do this with a cabin full of yound children without them ending up on the floor, or thru the windshield.
My thoughts, 110%, no questions about it, its the dumb ***'s who was texting's fault, and his family should just file bankruptcy now because the parents of the the 15 year old who DIED as a result of his lack of intelligence should file an enormous lawsuit against them.
Just my thoughts
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According to this quote I have of you, you are an idiot.
In my motorcycle safety class they teach you to look about 12 seconds ahead of you for trouble. I would imagine driving a ****ing BUSS that you'd be looking at least past the current vehicle for an indication of possible trouble.
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How the hell can you compare a BUS to a damn motorcycle?!? a bus in damn near 20 times heavier, if not more than a motorcycle! motorcycles can swerve out of the way, they can come to a complete stop in .5 seconds.. a bus can do none of those things. my god that's the most absurd comparison i have heard in a long time
if motorcycles were so pro, why am i constantly seeing them laying under cars or smashed into the side of trucks on the news? guess they didn't look ahead?
**facepalm
if motorcycles were so pro, why am i constantly seeing them laying under cars or smashed into the side of trucks on the news? guess they didn't look ahead?
**facepalm
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My point wasn't the weight of the vehicles, my point was that the user of said vehicle should be looking AHEAD past the vehicle directly in front of them for possible danger. ANY driver of ANY vehicle should do that. . . wow guy.
How the hell can you compare a BUS to a damn motorcycle?!? a bus in damn near 20 times heavier, if not more than a motorcycle! motorcycles can swerve out of the way, they can come to a complete stop in .5 seconds.. a bus can do none of those things. my god that's the most absurd comparison i have heard in a long time
if motorcycles were so pro, why am i constantly seeing them laying under cars or smashed into the side of trucks on the news? guess they didn't look ahead?
**facepalm
if motorcycles were so pro, why am i constantly seeing them laying under cars or smashed into the side of trucks on the news? guess they didn't look ahead?
**facepalm
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How the hell can you compare a BUS to a damn motorcycle?!? a bus in damn near 20 times heavier, if not more than a motorcycle! motorcycles can swerve out of the way, they can come to a complete stop in .5 seconds.. a bus can do none of those things. my god that's the most absurd comparison i have heard in a long time
if motorcycles were so pro, why am i constantly seeing them laying under cars or smashed into the side of trucks on the news? guess they didn't look ahead?
**facepalm
if motorcycles were so pro, why am i constantly seeing them laying under cars or smashed into the side of trucks on the news? guess they didn't look ahead?
**facepalm
It's drivers ed 101. And you've never driven a motorcycle before if you think it comes to a stop in .5 seconds at 70mph. Comparison is valid because the principle is valid. Especially when it comes to the second bus.
And a bus is WAY more than 20x's heavier than a bike... talk about face palm.
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If the bus bumped the kid... o.k. But the bus drove OVER a truck and a semi-truck. That is more than a bump.
I have driven a bus before and my parents have a 40 foot motorhome... when you're in something that big you can not help but KNOW at all times you're in a heavy *** vehicle.
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If the bus bumped the kid... o.k. But the bus drove OVER a truck and a semi-truck. That is more than a bump.
I have driven a bus before and my parents have a 40 foot motorhome... when you're in something that big you can not help but KNOW at all times you're in a heavy *** vehicle.
I have driven a bus before and my parents have a 40 foot motorhome... when you're in something that big you can not help but KNOW at all times you're in a heavy *** vehicle.
These were relative statements that i stated, not scientific and exact. Chill out bud.