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Old 12-14-2011 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chimchimm5
I'm against distracted driving, especially txt/phone distraction (I HATE it when people think they are "hands free" when they CB-radio their cell phones). But this incident is clearly more an issue of the school buses and the victims. BAD example of txt'ing problem.

The problem with txting, is that all txting incidents will be very hard to prove they were the cause. Mere seconds separate being at a stop light, and crossing an intersection when it turns gree.
Actually, they CAN prove it was a factor because they know the time of the accident and the time the last TXT was sent by the driver. He was traveling at 55mph when he hit the truck and had sent a TXT within a minute of the accident. At 55mph, 1 minute is a LOT of ground covered even if he was fully aware of the situation and reacting correctly.

That does not excuse the subsequent failure of the two bus drivers after the fact. It is entirely possible the first bus driver is responsible for the kid's death, as the kid could have survived the initial crash and been killed by the bus. Even with working brakes, a fully loaded bus is not going to stop on a dime.

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I honestly think the buses should be at fault. The school district or the bus company should pay the victims, including the evil "texter" that the writer is trying to blame.
Old 12-14-2011 | 03:41 PM
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I honestly think the buses should be at fault. The school district or the bus company should pay the victims, including the evil "texter" that the writer is trying to blame.
ALL of the drivers who failed to avoid the accident are at fault.
Old 12-15-2011 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 04GG
ALL of the drivers who failed to avoid the accident are at fault.
This and nothing but.
They shouldn't be using the kid's texting as a scape goat for the bus drivers, nor the school district for failing to maintain their buses.
Old 12-15-2011 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 04GG
ALL of the drivers who failed to avoid the accident are at fault.
Yes. I'm curious if anyone knows if the kid actually hit the truck before the buses rear ended him... did someone besides the bus driver SEE it.

Or does the pick ups black box report it?
Old 12-15-2011 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 04GG
ALL of the drivers who failed to avoid the accident are at fault.
If some dumb kid wouldn't have been texting and rear ended a semi truck, there would be no accident. Its his fault, and because of his sudden/abrupt crash, he subsequently was rear ended by a large bus. This kind of crash happens all the time and its impossible and ridiculous to blame some public school bus driver for this.
So the buses brakes were not "brand new" big whoop, by the looks of the photo there were not in a "residential" area so im sure the speed-limit was not 25mph, probably something more along the lines of 45-65. Normally if you were about to rear end someone in a CAR, you would swerve one way or another so you have ample room to stop, and just in case, you can get away from the car in front of you. Its a little tougher for a full size bus (with no seat-belts im sure) to do this with a cabin full of yound children without them ending up on the floor, or thru the windshield.
My thoughts, 110%, no questions about it, its the dumb ***'s who was texting's fault, and his family should just file bankruptcy now because the parents of the the 15 year old who DIED as a result of his lack of intelligence should file an enormous lawsuit against them.
Just my thoughts
Old 12-15-2011 | 10:33 AM
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According to this quote I have of you, you are an idiot.
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If some dumb kid wouldn't have been texting and rear ended a semi truck, there would be no accident. Its his fault, and because of his sudden/abrupt crash, he subsequently was rear ended by a large bus.
In my motorcycle safety class they teach you to look about 12 seconds ahead of you for trouble. I would imagine driving a ****ing BUSS that you'd be looking at least past the current vehicle for an indication of possible trouble.

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Old 12-15-2011 | 10:41 AM
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How the hell can you compare a BUS to a damn motorcycle?!? a bus in damn near 20 times heavier, if not more than a motorcycle! motorcycles can swerve out of the way, they can come to a complete stop in .5 seconds.. a bus can do none of those things. my god that's the most absurd comparison i have heard in a long time

if motorcycles were so pro, why am i constantly seeing them laying under cars or smashed into the side of trucks on the news? guess they didn't look ahead?

**facepalm
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My point wasn't the weight of the vehicles, my point was that the user of said vehicle should be looking AHEAD past the vehicle directly in front of them for possible danger. ANY driver of ANY vehicle should do that. . . wow guy.


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How the hell can you compare a BUS to a damn motorcycle?!? a bus in damn near 20 times heavier, if not more than a motorcycle! motorcycles can swerve out of the way, they can come to a complete stop in .5 seconds.. a bus can do none of those things. my god that's the most absurd comparison i have heard in a long time

if motorcycles were so pro, why am i constantly seeing them laying under cars or smashed into the side of trucks on the news? guess they didn't look ahead?

**facepalm
Old 12-15-2011 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoofus
My point wasn't the weight of the vehicles, my point was that the user of said vehicle should be looking AHEAD past the vehicle directly in front of them for possible danger. ANY driver of ANY vehicle should do that. . . wow guy.
There are lots of things people SHOULD do, however, they Don't. Thats life.
Old 12-15-2011 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Volkey
There are lots of things people SHOULD do, however, they Don't. Thats life.
So you won't admit that the idea that the whole fault of this accident should lay solely on the kid is ignorant and incorrect?
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Originally Posted by Volkey
How the hell can you compare a BUS to a damn motorcycle?!? a bus in damn near 20 times heavier, if not more than a motorcycle! motorcycles can swerve out of the way, they can come to a complete stop in .5 seconds.. a bus can do none of those things. my god that's the most absurd comparison i have heard in a long time

if motorcycles were so pro, why am i constantly seeing them laying under cars or smashed into the side of trucks on the news? guess they didn't look ahead?

**facepalm
No matter what you are driving... if you can't stop in time, you're following too closely.

It's drivers ed 101. And you've never driven a motorcycle before if you think it comes to a stop in .5 seconds at 70mph. Comparison is valid because the principle is valid. Especially when it comes to the second bus.

And a bus is WAY more than 20x's heavier than a bike... talk about face palm.
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Originally Posted by Volkey
There are lots of things people SHOULD do, however, they Don't. Thats life.



If the bus bumped the kid... o.k. But the bus drove OVER a truck and a semi-truck. That is more than a bump.



I have driven a bus before and my parents have a 40 foot motorhome... when you're in something that big you can not help but KNOW at all times you're in a heavy *** vehicle.
Old 12-16-2011 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
If the bus bumped the kid... o.k. But the bus drove OVER a truck and a semi-truck. That is more than a bump.



I have driven a bus before and my parents have a 40 foot motorhome... when you're in something that big you can not help but KNOW at all times you're in a heavy *** vehicle.
Ive driven a 45 foot boat? lol I'm really not trying to argue with anyone, I was doing nothing more than stating how I feel, and my response on the article. I swear, some people on I-club post with the sole purpose of trying to get into an argument with someone else.

Originally Posted by OneManArmy
And you've never driven a motorcycle before if you think it comes to a stop in .5 seconds at 70mph.

And a bus is WAY more than 20x's heavier than a bike... talk about face palm.
These were relative statements that i stated, not scientific and exact. Chill out bud.
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^ I wasn't trying to get in an argument, I was trying to point out that fact that you were ignorant to the situation at hand as a whole.


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