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Old 04-06-2010 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Until you've been in an environment where people are trying to kill you, you should not comment about knowing how a warrior feels.
And laughing when the armored vehicle runs over a dead body???

Telling me to not to comment. You sir, are an idiot.
Old 04-06-2010 | 12:51 PM
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It's quite apparent the length of coverup, and the denial of how the children got injured by our military shows arrogance of America. It would have been a lot better to say "Hey we did it, it was a mistake, we apologize" but instead of taking Toyota's route, they decided to not let information on how 2 photographers were dead, tried to bury the information until Reuters exercised the Freedom of Information Act.

It's great to hear after reinvestigation, the shooting was deemed legitimate. I guess the government always covers stuff up and deems it OK to blow up a van trying to evacuate wounded personnel. I'm sure there was explicit show of weapons in the van and on the dead bodies.

IF THERE WAS ANY APPARENT WEAPONRY, I guarantee the military would have said so a lot sooner, the fact it took this long to say it means they didn't have any hard facts to show why they killed more innocent people.

It's OK, Obama said we're getting out... a year ago. Bahaha!
Old 04-06-2010 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
The Us gov't has not declared war since WW2.

BTW, the DEMs appear to love waging war as much as the evil GOP.
Walks like a duck, talks like a duck. Would you have been happier if rather than "declaring war" I typed "militarily invaded a sovereign country based upon manufactured evidence?" I agree that both political parties have blame in this very expensive and bloody "war-or-whateveryouwannacallit".
Old 04-06-2010 | 02:58 PM
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Did you miss the part where the Apache was talking with a US ground crew clearing the area for them to move in? It's real easy for people to sit back and speculate what should have been done when they are not the one in the middle of the situation.
No, did you miss the part where those guys are fiending to kill someone? and then open up on am ambulance. Regardless what could have been, they are journalists, on top of this it is obvious to the apache gunner they aren't not threats, yet they are still anxious to kill them. Thats disgusting, but expected given the x-con to armed forces rate. Sadly a lot of our guys are people who were to dangerous even for our own society.


If they already had troops so close on the ground, the apache can cover them up top, and has insane fire power. As you saw. I don't think it was needed to open up on some guys who clearly didn't have weapons, especially when there are ground troops so close. Frankly its a waste of goddamn tax payer money, coulda had the ground troops ax those hodgies.


Honestly guy I agreed it's a touchy situation, but your post sounds retard and full of some of the **** loyalism. Frankly you give people a good reason to hate america, and a good reason for terrorist to take up the fight.

I guess you don't understand things like this just make it more dangerous for the US citizens in the future.

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Old 04-06-2010 | 03:04 PM
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This looks like a horrible incident.

So I'm unclear... were there any weapons at all? I kn the cameras looked like RPGs/AK47s, but were there also weapons?

Once the pilots were cleared to open up, they were in attack mode and unfortunately the van entering the area extended the "engagement". This is a perfect storm of things going wrong.

The real issue is we shouldn't be in Iraq in the first place.
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Originally Posted by horsecut54
And laughing when the armored vehicle runs over a dead body???

Telling me to not to comment. You sir, are an idiot.
Why the personal attack & name calling?
If you are a combat veteran I do apologize for insinuating that you can not accurately comment on how a warrior feels.

If you are not, then all of your comments as well as those from people who have never been in combat are completely pointless and are pure armchair Quaterbacking.
Old 04-06-2010 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by slow04wrx
coulda had the ground troops ax those hodgies...

Honestly guy I agreed it's a touchy situation, but your post sounds retard and full of some of the **** loyalism. Frankly you give people a good reason to hate america, and a good reason for terrorist to take up the fight.

I guess you don't understand things like this just make it more dangerous for the US citizens in the future.
I am so confused here. First you make a racial slur, "hodgies"

Second, You say its a waste of tax dollars, and situations like this make it a good reason for a terrorist to take up the fight, and more dangerous for US citizens.

What??

Almost everyone on this board are jingoistic military lovers, is it just that 'car guys' love the military without question cause it backs up there own macho-lifestyle? Almost everyday I am astonished by the stuff on this forum. Y'all have lost your GD minds.
Old 04-06-2010 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Why the personal attack & name calling?
If you are a combat veteran I do apologize for insinuating that you can not accurately comment on how a warrior feels.

If you are not, then all of your comments as well as those from people who have never been in combat are completely pointless and are pure armchair Quaterbacking.
Thank you for proving my point. I am not a soldier, I hate soldier-ness, Have you ever thought that the reason there are so many wars is that there are people exactly like you in other countries. That you are really just fighting yourself?

The few the proud... bull****, you arent few, you are common, Ghandi, MLK those are the few, you, the soldier are about the most common man on the planet. I am sure that if it was 150 years ago, you would have lined up to slaughter the indians, you are common, nothing more.

"we dont fight our enemies, we fight ourselves, and there are no winners or losers, just those left to fight another day"

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Old 04-06-2010 | 03:26 PM
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closer view of RPG:

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Old 04-06-2010 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by horsecut54
The few the proud... bull****, you arent few, you are common
Are you trying to convince us or yourself with this BS? We have an all volunteer military that makes up less than 1% of the American population. Put down the bong and go check your stats before you go mouthing off with your hippie nonsense.
Old 04-06-2010 | 03:36 PM
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we learned in Vietnam, that a draftee army is not good at fighting wars of empire. A volunteer army, an army of mercenaries, is the only truly effective way to grow an empire. Thats why the military would never allow a draft to happen, not ever again.
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Originally Posted by horsecut54
Thank you for proving my point. I am not a soldier, I hate soldier-ness, Have you ever thought that the reason there are so many wars is that there are people exactly like you in other countries. That you are really just fighting yourself?

The few the proud... bull****, you arent few, you are common, Ghandi, MLK those are the few, you, the soldier are about the most common man on the planet. I am sure that if it was 150 years ago, you would have lined up to slaughter the indians, you are common, nothing more.

"we dont fight our enemies, we fight ourselves, and there are no winners or losers, just those left to fight another day"


Originally Posted by ldivinag
closer view of RPG:

If I saw that in my sights, I would've smoked 'em, too.

Originally Posted by Lurk
Are you trying to convince us or yourself with this BS? We have an all volunteer military that makes up less than 1% of the American population. Put down the bong and go check your stats before you go mouthing off with your hippie nonsense.
Don't waste your time, it's a mental disease.
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Originally Posted by horsecut54
we learned in Vietnam, that a draftee army is not good at fighting wars of empire. A volunteer army, an army of mercenaries, is the only truly effective way to grow an empire. Thats why the military would never allow a draft to happen, not ever again.
Wow, you are waaaay out there, aren't you?
Old 04-06-2010 | 03:51 PM
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i wouldve blasted too.



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