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Old 12-14-2007, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul@dbtuned
Did you know that the bulb was burned out?
If yes, why didn't you fix it?
i know i know...

i did the night before, i work in the daytime, and get out at night...i was driving home 2 miles to go to bed and he got me.

yeah, but you never remember to buy a bulb until at least one night goes by, because you forget about until night comes and you turn your lights on.

Also when we were all done, i was about to pull away and this car doesnt see that its a red light and skids for 10 feet from 30 mph and what does the cop do? nothing at all, he proceeds down the residential neighborhood at 10 mph. HE WAS 20 FEET AWAY AND HAD TO HAVE SEEN/HEARD IT!
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Don't hate the COP. Hate the law. The other day I was talking to a local. (he grew up here and got assigned here..) we were talking about the Matt Garcia (Youngest elected official ever or something) Anyway he won by a couple hundred votes. His total votes.... Less than 3500 votes. so by definition the 2 other candidates had less than that. So.... At maximum 10,500 votes total, For a county that has well over 100,200 residents (2003).

If you don't like the law evict the *sshats that make the law. It's not like there is nothing to worry about and the Cal .gov has so much extra money to spend that they have to find stuff to spend it on.
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Months ago i got pulled over for 55 in a 35, and entering an empty 3 lane El Camino to the middle lane instead of the inside. The cop was so cool when he found out i was a hardworking kid, not a lazy stoner or thug lookin kid he let me off with a modified exhaust ticket instead of the 2 moving violations. <--Cops take note

i think many cases its not just the law. Cops have the choice to be cool or dicks, they draw the line and choose what side they stand on.

some people lack common sense, act like robots that are programmed to do stuff...F'n space cadets in another world.

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Old 12-14-2007, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kYLEMtnCRUZr
i think many cases its not just the law. Cops have the choice to be cool or dicks, they draw the line and choose what side they stand on.
People also have a lot of power to effect the outcome of a traffic stop. If you have your papers in order, admit to what you know did wrong, act polite and professional you'll have a great chance of reducing the severity of the punishment.

If you have a chip on your shoulder, play dumb and speak like you're talking to your suburban thug friends.... well, don't be surprised when you get bent over and have the book thrown at you.

Originally Posted by VRT Gump
just wait until the new cell phone law comes out.
I'm not a fan of government intrusion, but this is one law I can't wait for. People can't drive for **** as it is, throw a cell phone in the mix and it's bumper cars. I hope they enforce it.
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Old 12-14-2007, 07:00 PM
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I LOVE the cell phone law! then again in reality its gonna suck because people are just gonna text instead of talk, which is 100 times more dangerous. So who knows if it will be a benefit at all.

Originally Posted by Spoolin415
People also have a lot of power to effect the outcome of a traffic stop. If you have your papers in order, admit to what you know did wrong, act polite and professional you'll have a great chance of reducing the severity of the punishment.

If you have a chip on your shoulder, play dumb and speak like you're talking to your suburban thug friends.... well, don't be surprised when you get bent over and have the book thrown at you.
Thats exactly what i did...it was 3 am, i see this HOT FD RX7 pass by as i was 100 feet away, no cars on El Camino, i slowly make my way to 50 mph staying in the middle lane...1 minute later he gets me

I told him i wasnt racing him, i never race anyone (in urban areas ) i just wanted to get a better look at the FD... i couldnt point a gun at anyone without shaking, he could tell i was nervous as F.

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Old 01-07-2008, 08:30 AM
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So does anyone know if the cell phone law is now in full effect?
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Originally Posted by sonic_yellow
So does anyone know if the cell phone law is now in full effect?
I dunno. Is it July 1st?
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i thought is beginning of this year. jan 1st
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My buddy in the CHP posted this on another board.


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Just to clear things up...

BILL NUMBER: SB 1613 CHAPTERED
BILL TEXT

CHAPTER 290
FILED WITH SECRETARY OF STATE SEPTEMBER 15, 2006
APPROVED BY GOVERNOR SEPTEMBER 15, 2006
PASSED THE SENATE AUGUST 31, 2006
PASSED THE ASSEMBLY AUGUST 29, 2006
AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY AUGUST 24, 2006
AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY AUGUST 21, 2006
AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY AUGUST 9, 2006
AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY AUGUST 7, 2006
AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY JUNE 20, 2006
AMENDED IN SENATE MAY 3, 2006

INTRODUCED BY Senator Simitian
(Principal coauthor: Assembly Member Garcia)
(Coauthors: Assembly Members Berg, Frommer, and Koretz)

FEBRUARY 24, 2006

An act to add Section 12810.3 to, and to add and repeal Section
23123 of, the Vehicle Code, relating to vehicles.


LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST


SB 1613, Simitian Vehicles: wireless telephones.
Under existing law, motor vehicle operation is regulated, and
drivers must follow many legal requirements or face criminal
sanctions. Under existing law, it is a crime for a person to drive a
schoolbus or transit vehicle while using a wireless telephone, except
for certain work-related or emergency purposes.
This bill would make it an infraction, operative July 1, 2008, to
drive a motor vehicle while using a wireless telephone, unless that
telephone is designed and configured to allow hands-free listening
and talking operation, and is used in that manner while driving. This
offense would be punishable by a base fine of $20 for a first
offense and $50 for each subsequent offense.
The bill would provide that this prohibition does not apply to a
person who is using the cellular telephone to contact a law
enforcement agency or public safety entity for emergency purposes, or
to an emergency services professional while he or she operates an
authorized emergency vehicle, as specified. The bill also would
prohibit the assignment of a violation point for a violation of the
above.
The bill, until July 1, 2011, also would provide that this
prohibition does not apply to a person when using a digital 2-way
radio service that utilizes a wireless telephone that operates by
depressing a push-to-talk feature and does not require immediate
proximity to the ear of the user, and that person is driving a motor
truck or truck tractor, as respectively defined, a listed or
described implement of husbandry, a listed farm vehicle, a tow truck,
or a commercial vehicle, as defined, used in commercial agricultural
operations.
The bill would specify that these provisions do not apply to a
person driving a schoolbus or transit vehicle that is subject to
certain existing wireless telephone usage restrictions, and would
specify that the restrictions contained in this bill do not apply to
a person while driving a motor vehicle on private property.
By creating a new infraction, this bill would impose a
state-mandated local program.
The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local
agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the
state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that
reimbursement.
This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this
act for a specified reason.


THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:


SECTION 1. This act shall be known and may be cited as the
California Wireless Telephone Automobile Safety Act of 2006.
SEC. 2. The Legislature finds and declares all of the following:
(a) There are significant safety benefits associated with the
availability of wireless communication technologies, including, but
not limited to, providing assistance that helps save lives and
minimizes property damage.
(b) On a daily basis, California drivers make thousands of
wireless telephone emergency 911 calls.
(c) The availability of wireless telephones in motor vehicles
allows motorists to report accidents, fires, naturally occurring
life-threatening situations, including, but not limited to, rock
slides and fallen trees, other dangerous road conditions, road rage,
dangerous driving, criminal behavior, including drunk driving, and
stranded motorist situations.
(d) There is growing public concern regarding the safety
implications of the widespread practice of using hand-held wireless
telephones while operating motor vehicles.
(e) It is in the best interests of the health and welfare of the
citizens of the state to enact one uniform motor vehicle wireless
telephone use law that establishes statewide safety guidelines for
use of wireless telephones while operating a motor vehicle.
SEC. 3. Section 12810.3 is added to the Vehicle Code, to read:
12810.3. (a) Notwithstanding subdivision (f) of Section 12810, a
violation point shall not be given for a conviction of a violation of
subdivision (a) of Section 23123.
(b) The section shall become operative on July 1, 2008.
SEC. 4. Section 23123 is added to the Vehicle Code, to read:
23123. (a) A person shall not drive a motor vehicle while using a
wireless telephone unless that telephone is specifically designed
and configured to allow hands-free listening and talking, and is used
in that manner while driving.
(b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a) of Section 42001 or any other
provision of law, a violation of this section is an infraction
punishable by a base fine of twenty dollars ($20) for a first offense
and fifty dollars ($50) for each subsequent offense.
(c) This section does not apply to a person using a wireless
telephone for emergency purposes, including, but not limited to, an
emergency call to a law enforcement agency, health care provider,
fire department, or other emergency services agency or entity.
(d) This section does not apply to an emergency services
professional using a wireless telephone while operating an authorized
emergency vehicle, as defined in Section 165, in the course and
scope of his or her duties.
(e) This section does not apply to a person when using a digital
two-way radio that utilizes a wireless telephone that operates by
depressing a push-to-talk feature and does not require immediate
proximity to the ear of the user, and the person is driving one of
the following vehicles:
(1) (A) A motor truck, as defined in Section 410, or a truck
tractor, as defined in Section 655, that requires either a commercial
class A or class B driver's license to operate.
(B) The exemption under subparagraph (A) does not apply to a
person driving a pickup truck, as defined in Section 471.
(2) An implement of husbandry that is listed or described in
Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 36000) of Division 16.
(3) A farm vehicle that is exempt from registration and displays
an identification plate as specified in Section 5014 and is listed in
Section 36101.
(4) A commercial vehicle, as defined in Section 260, that is
registered to a farmer and driven by the farmer or an employee of the
farmer, and is used in conducting commercial agricultural
operations, including, but not limited to, transporting agricultural
products, farm machinery, or farm supplies to, or from, a farm.
(5) A tow truck, as defined in Section 615.
(f) This section does not apply to a person driving a schoolbus or
transit vehicle that is subject to Section 23125.
(g) This section does not apply to a person while driving a motor
vehicle on private property.
(h) This section shall become operative on July 1, 2008, and shall
remain in effect only until July 1, 2011, and, as of July 1, 2011,
is repealed.
SEC. 5. Section 23123 is added to the Vehicle Code, to read:
23123. (a) A person shall not drive a motor vehicle while using a
wireless telephone unless that telephone is specifically designed
and configured to allow hands-free listening and talking, and is used
in that manner while driving.
(b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a) of Section 42001 or any other
provision of law, a violation of this sections is an infraction
punishable by a base fine of twenty dollars ($20) for a first offense
and fifty dollars ($50) for each subsequent offense.
(c) This section does not apply to a person using a wireless
telephone for emergency purposes, including, but not limited to, an
emergency call to a law enforcement agency, health care provider,
fire department, or other emergency services agency or entity.
(d) This section does not apply to an emergency services
professional using a wireless telephone while operating an authorized
emergency vehicle, as defined in Section 165, in the course and
scope of his or her duties.
(e) This section does not apply to a person driving a schoolbus or
transit vehicle that is subject to Section 23125.
(f) This section does not apply to a person while driving a motor
vehicle on private property.
(g) This section shall become operative on July 1, 2011.
SEC. 6. No reimbursement is required by this act pursuant to
Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution because
the only costs that may be incurred by a local agency or school
district will be incurred because this act creates a new crime or
infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or changes the penalty
for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of Section 17556 of the
Government Code, or changes the definition of a crime within the
meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California
Constitution.
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by wimprezax06
i thought is beginning of this year. jan 1st
i wish it was jan 1st. all these mad women on the road with suv's and being on the phone, running red lights and making illegal turns on red lights. every day i almost hit one of them in the east bay.
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that cellphone law sucks, but then again, its a great thing to!!

I cant tell you the last time i watched someone on the phone driving sane, i see people everyday driving around like idiots almost running into EVERYTHing because they have their damn phone up to their ear.
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Old 01-07-2008, 11:13 AM
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who here even enjoys talking on the phone while driving? I hate the feeling of the drop of awareness I have when I'm on a cell phone when driving, so I rarely even talk on the phone when I drive anyway.
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Old 01-07-2008, 11:15 AM
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[QUOTE=VRT Gump;2054209]just wait until the new cell phone law comes out.

darn, who am i gonna use my horns on now....
but yea, i hate cell phone drivers, they can barely drive without the cell phone in there hands, thats the reason i have 4 hella horns on my car =)

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Old 01-07-2008, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Tizzo27
Don't hate the COP. Hate the law.
This seems to get overlooked so often. The cops don't write any laws. They are employed to enforce (inflict ) the laws on us citizens to promote a healthier and safer community. Unfortunately, this often runs head to head with having fun.
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yeah who changed it from Jan to July?

"yes great idea Smithers, enforce the new law when all the roads are dry and safe! let them talk all they want while its wet, foggy windsheilds etc"

I only ever talk on the phone on the freeway since its a good 20 minutes of wasted time and not change lanes.

I still focus more on driving than talking, unlike some people that feel like they have to make hand gestures on the phone...my GF will know if im driving because it takes me longer to answer her questions or comments...like 5 seconds longer so its obvious.
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