Ha Ha thats what they get
02-21-2008, 01:48 PM
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With kids and/or other people in the car, it cuts down on the emissions because the amount of emissions can be divided by the number of people in the car. More people in every car = less emissions, even if they can't drive.
F**K solo drivers in the carpool lane.
F**K people waiting until the last minute to bail out of a Fastrak lane. F**KERS!!
-Brian
F**K solo drivers in the carpool lane.
F**K people waiting until the last minute to bail out of a Fastrak lane. F**KERS!!
-Brian
I don't agree that having kids in the car equals less emissions though because aside for ripping off some wicked farts, they don't really have the option to create more pollution. Carpooling with someone who normally drives does because THAT person could be driving a separate car but are not.
A counterpoint is this: Maybe the person is taking their kid to school in which case it is FAR WORSE than the above since they may not even be on the road (or that road) if it weren't for their desire for their child to not take public transportation. I don't know how it is around here for that stuff, but in Hawaii on the big island (in Hilo anyway) it is a HUGE problem because so many people don't want their kids to take the bus - they drive them, and the town is flat out gridlocked any time school is letting out.
02-21-2008, 04:52 PM
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I agree whole heartedly, that carpool lanes are a waste of a lane.
But that doesn't mean I believe people should violated the rules in place.
The rule may be stupid, but exploiters/cheaters are getting an unfair advantage over the people who respect the law.
But that doesn't mean I believe people should violated the rules in place.
The rule may be stupid, but exploiters/cheaters are getting an unfair advantage over the people who respect the law.
02-21-2008, 06:17 PM
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One who breaks an unjust law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.
-Martin Luther King, Jr.
The HOV lanes are making commuting worse, increasing pollution, and increasing both the risk and severity of accidents. You cannot see beyond the fact that it benefits you personally. Typical Californian.
Try and edumicate yourself:
-HOV actuation imposes a 20% capacity penalty
-The HOV restriction significantly increases
demand on the other lanes causing a net increase in overall congestion delay
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache...ps.dir/HOV.pdf
02-21-2008, 06:35 PM
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Kudos to all_being!
One who breaks an unjust law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.
-Martin Luther King, Jr.
The HOV lanes are making commuting worse, increasing pollution, and increasing both the risk and severity of accidents. You cannot see beyond the fact that it benefits you personally. Typical Californian.
Try and edumicate yourself:
-HOV actuation imposes a 20% capacity penalty
-The HOV restriction significantly increases
demand on the other lanes causing a net increase in overall congestion delay
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache...ps.dir/HOV.pdf
One who breaks an unjust law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.
-Martin Luther King, Jr.
The HOV lanes are making commuting worse, increasing pollution, and increasing both the risk and severity of accidents. You cannot see beyond the fact that it benefits you personally. Typical Californian.
Try and edumicate yourself:
-HOV actuation imposes a 20% capacity penalty
-The HOV restriction significantly increases
demand on the other lanes causing a net increase in overall congestion delay
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache...ps.dir/HOV.pdf
Don't hype it up. "all_being" is not trying to change the way the law works or make an impact on society. I doubt this person had considered your point of view for a second. He/she/it also didn't mention anything at all about being willing to accept the consequences.
Yes, carpool lanes don't make sense - but it is still a good idea to follow the rules. Carpool cheating is simply and solely being selfishly disrespectful to those who choose to follow the rules. PERIOD.
02-21-2008, 07:29 PM
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Haha... Awesome, so it's our responsibility to show respect for the law by breaking it. Got it. Wonder if I can quote MLK and be let off for carpool cheating, speeding, having a loud car or anything else that in reality does not make sense.
Don't hype it up. "all_being" is not trying to change the way the law works or make an impact on society. I doubt this person had considered your point of view for a second. He/she/it also didn't mention anything at all about being willing to accept the consequences.
Yes, carpool lanes don't make sense - but it is still a good idea to follow the rules. Carpool cheating is simply and solely being selfishly disrespectful to those who choose to follow the rules. PERIOD.
Don't hype it up. "all_being" is not trying to change the way the law works or make an impact on society. I doubt this person had considered your point of view for a second. He/she/it also didn't mention anything at all about being willing to accept the consequences.
Yes, carpool lanes don't make sense - but it is still a good idea to follow the rules. Carpool cheating is simply and solely being selfishly disrespectful to those who choose to follow the rules. PERIOD.
Have you ever driven faster than the posted speed limit?
02-21-2008, 07:36 PM
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02-21-2008, 07:56 PM
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Honestly, I think you understand but you are just trying to start/continue a pointless argument.
02-21-2008, 08:07 PM
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No, actually, it does not. I never said any of that. It's pretty obvious what the difference is - and if it needs to be explained to you, really, then there is even less of a point to this conversation than it seemed.
Honestly, I think you understand but you are just trying to start/continue a pointless argument.
Honestly, I think you understand but you are just trying to start/continue a pointless argument.
Again, if all laws are meant to be obeyed 100%, then you have to be consistent in your logic. If not, then where does that leave us?
