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Old 05-10-2009, 09:39 AM
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Iirc the cop doesn't have to show you the radar upon request, and I would imagine the cop who drives without lights on may turn **** if you did. Jourdan what's was the violation code on your ticket?
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Originally Posted by NorCalBugEye
Iirc the cop doesn't have to show you the radar upon request, and I would imagine the cop who drives without lights on may turn **** if you did. Jourdan what's was the violation code on your ticket?
IIRC the cop does have to show you the radar upon request. But im not positive
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Old 05-10-2009, 10:25 AM
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fight it
and use helpigotaticket.com

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/entrapment
(law) Action by law enforcement personnel to lead an otherwise innocent person to commit a crime, in order to arrest and prosecute that person for the crime.
A detective asking you to buy marijuana for a dying man would be police entrapment.
From what I've understood in the past, only actions that are forced (leading you to fear for your freedom/life) are entrapment. A cop challenging you to a street race is not entrapment because you can safely say "no." A cop threatening to arrest you on fake charges if you don't race him, would be entrapment.

However, there is something about them having to be visible with parking lights on.

Oh, and wikipedia/wiktionary are not reliable reference sources, espcially with legal issues where wording of the law is key.

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Old 05-10-2009, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jic
got pulled over in monterey for speeding and cop was pacing the whole time at night w/o lights. tried to fight it in court with no luck.

moral of the story... dont speed esp. in monterey
Was it a Monterey PD or CHP? And if it was a CHP was it a skinny black guy? If so I've dealt with him before and he is a flat out ***.

Did he pace you at night? Isn't that a safety issue? If it was something you feel strongly about, you could have consulted one of rhode lawyers that deals specifically with traffic violations.
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Old 05-10-2009, 12:03 PM
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Was he parked under a light? Sometimes they use that technique around here. BTW, I believe the "speed trap" defense MIGHT work here - although it depends on his range when he tapped his brake lights. I believe that in order for it not to be considered a speed trap, he has to be visible for 200' in one direction.
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Old 05-10-2009, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by VRT MBasile
Was it a Monterey PD or CHP? And if it was a CHP was it a skinny black guy? If so I've dealt with him before and he is a flat out ***.

Did he pace you at night? Isn't that a safety issue? If it was something you feel strongly about, you could have consulted one of rhode lawyers that deals specifically with traffic violations.
nope some white guy..its monterey..didnt even know there was black folks there..lol

and btw..its chp

they set up trap parties..there was over 5 cars i saw in a few miles distance pulled over..so i slowed down to 65-70 mph at a 65 limit..still got pulled over for 68..fu**en jackass
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it used to be they HAD to have lights on...i dont know the exact ruling anymore but lets be honest with ourselves, cops dont really play fair

should i break it out again?!?!

"there is no justice in a system designed to generate revenue...period"
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i got lidar'd by a helicopter maybe thats what happened to you? prolly was not a radar...
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Not too sure about entrapment. Although you might be guilty, attempt trial by declaration. May be you will get lucky.
Agree.
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Old 05-10-2009, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by NorCalBugEye
Iirc the cop doesn't have to show you the radar upon request, and I would imagine the cop who drives without lights on may turn **** if you did. Jourdan what's was the violation code on your ticket?
I knew I was speeding, I didn't need him to show me his proof.

I'll look up the vioation code later today as I am at work right now.

I'm thinking that I'm just going to pay it, hopefully I am eligable to traffic school.
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Old 05-10-2009, 03:16 PM
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He could have had his headlights off to check to see if any rear lights were out when he came up on you, I was pulled over for that once. Cop pulled up behind me, turned off his headlights, and pulled me over for my plate light being out. Ticket was dismissed though because the cop didn't state whether my plate was visible from 50ft w/o lights. Unfortunately that's not the main reason you were pulled over lol...
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Old 05-10-2009, 04:44 PM
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its definatly not entrapment. you sped by him.

entrapment would be....... a cop told you its ok to do doughnuts. then he gives you a ticket and tows your car for 23103 (reckless driving)
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u should try a trail by written declaration. You have nothing to lose by doing so. Go to www.ticketassassin.com, there is tons of information on how to fight a ticket and templates for ur written dec. If that doesn't get you acquitted, you can opt for a trail de novo and get a shot in court. Police in California get paid incentives for appearing in court but not for writing a rebuttal, which would be required of them in a trail by written dec. So many are acquitted simply for the fact the officer didn't have time/or didn't want to spend time writing a rebuttal. Also, considering the time of night and the flow of traffic, I think you have a good shot. Whatever you do, do not just pay the ticket, it is your right to contest any citation and you have nothing to lose by doing so. Try it, it worked for me. Read up, and good luck!!
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Old 05-10-2009, 05:27 PM
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hmm i have a lawyer that just deals with speeding tickets, he usual deals with san mateo

If you want i can give you info just pm me.
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Originally Posted by warchildSTI
u should try a trail by written declaration. You have nothing to lose by doing so. Go to www.ticketassassin.com, there is tons of information on how to fight a ticket and templates for ur written dec. If that doesn't get you acquitted, you can opt for a trail de novo and get a shot in court. Police in California get paid incentives for appearing in court but not for writing a rebuttal, which would be required of them in a trail by written dec. So many are acquitted simply for the fact the officer didn't have time/or didn't want to spend time writing a rebuttal. Also, considering the time of night and the flow of traffic, I think you have a good shot. Whatever you do, do not just pay the ticket, it is your right to contest any citation and you have nothing to lose by doing so. Try it, it worked for me. Read up, and good luck!!
Or he can be a man and take his punishment for breaking the law. Just a thought... You know, that whole "being responsible for your actions" theory that seems to have slipped through the grasp of most Americans

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