Frontsight Training Institute... who's been there?
07-07-2010 | 02:12 PM
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Frontsight Training Institute... who's been there?
If you've been to this school please post your experience(s) whether positive or negative. Which course did you take and would you go back?
http://www.frontsight.com/index.asp
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http://www.frontsight.com/index.asp
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07-07-2010 | 08:57 PM
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07-07-2010 | 08:58 PM
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I would explore other options besides Front Sight, especially for handgun training. First off, they are very rigid in their training curriculum. The instructors follow an outline for the course, and they do not deviate from it. You must do everything their way. Also, they insist on teaching outdated shooting techniques such as the Weaver stance. These days, 99.999% of high level shooters from competition handgun shooters to military SOF operators shoot Isosceles. It is accepted as the superior shooting stance hands down. Only Hollywood actors shoot Weaver.
Yeah it's cool they give you a free XD pistol, but I'd rather spend the money on better training than get a free gun.
If you're going to be in Nevada, I highly recommend taking a class LMS Defense instead.
www.lmsdefense.com/lms/home/
Yeah it's cool they give you a free XD pistol, but I'd rather spend the money on better training than get a free gun.
If you're going to be in Nevada, I highly recommend taking a class LMS Defense instead.
www.lmsdefense.com/lms/home/
07-07-2010 | 09:19 PM
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The dude has a good rep... but seems really used car salesman like to me.
Louie Arbuck has a really good reputation and does classes in the bay area
http://www.yfainc.com/
Louie Arbuck has a really good reputation and does classes in the bay area
http://www.yfainc.com/
07-08-2010 | 12:38 AM
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Did the practical rifle course a few years ago. Great training with the AR, other than the sales pitch for their real estate deal out there. They're trying to develop an open carry community there where everyone is carrying.
If you're thinking of going, try picking up the course at either the Mule Deer foundation, or Safari Club international benefit auctions. Me and my dad actually won the training at the Safari Club dinner through one of their raffles. Otherwise the training goes for ~75% to 50% of retail at auction, depending on the economy. 100% of the proceeds will go to the hosting benefit. Only problem is it doesn't look like either dinner is coming up until Spring '11.
If you do book some training with them, make sure to ask if they still do the helicopter rides. For a small additional fee they'll take you up in their helicopter and let you go full auto on an m16 hanging out of the side of the chopper! Best part is, you get to skip the real estate pitch. We didn't know about it till we got there, and of course it was sold out.
If you're thinking of going, try picking up the course at either the Mule Deer foundation, or Safari Club international benefit auctions. Me and my dad actually won the training at the Safari Club dinner through one of their raffles. Otherwise the training goes for ~75% to 50% of retail at auction, depending on the economy. 100% of the proceeds will go to the hosting benefit. Only problem is it doesn't look like either dinner is coming up until Spring '11.
If you do book some training with them, make sure to ask if they still do the helicopter rides. For a small additional fee they'll take you up in their helicopter and let you go full auto on an m16 hanging out of the side of the chopper! Best part is, you get to skip the real estate pitch. We didn't know about it till we got there, and of course it was sold out.
07-08-2010 | 07:56 AM
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This just came to my email yesterday
NRA-Special Announcements
Dear Fellow NRA Member:
As the official NRA state association, the California Rifle and Pistol Association (CRPA) coordinates efforts and programs to improve and preserve firearms ownership rights in California. CRPA's full-time lobbyist in Sacramento works hand in glove with the NRA's lobbyist in California and CRPA partners with NRA to fund litigation battles in California. In addition, the CRPA provides timely and valuable state and local pro-gun information and services via the CRPA monthly magazine, The Firing Line, or website: www.crpa.org.
Help NRA by joining CRPA as they fight on behalf of California firearms owners and all law-abiding citizens. The CRPA needs you as a member to help support, preserve, and expand your right to keep and bear arms in California.
Please join the CRPA today. Politicians who want to restrict your rights will listen to the collective voice of a strong CRPA and even if you can't join at this time, or if you are already a CRPA member, please gift or sign up a new member or just send a contribution to help us in this important cause.
SPECIAL LIMITED TIME OFFER!!! Anyone who becomes a CRPA LIFE MEMBER will also receive a FREE certificate from Front Sight Firearms Training Institute good for either: a Two-Day Defensive Hand gun, Two-Day Tactical Shotgun, or Two-Day Practical Rifle Course. (a $1,000.00 Value). There are 3 levels of CRPA Life membership:
CRPA Life Member - $325.00
Senior CRPA Life Member (age 65+) - $175.00
Disabled Veteran CRPA Life Member - $195.00
BRAND NEW!!!! Any and all of these levels of CRPA Life membership may now be paid in four easy installments. Please call (800) 305-2772 for more details on joining CRPA and thank you for your commitment to our cause.
Sincerely,
John C. Fields
Executive Director
California Rifle and Pistol Association
271 Imperial Highway, Suite 620
Fullerton, California 92835
Phone: (714) 992-2772
Fax: (714) 992-2996
Email: jcfields@crpa.org
Website: www.crpa.org
Dear Fellow NRA Member:
As the official NRA state association, the California Rifle and Pistol Association (CRPA) coordinates efforts and programs to improve and preserve firearms ownership rights in California. CRPA's full-time lobbyist in Sacramento works hand in glove with the NRA's lobbyist in California and CRPA partners with NRA to fund litigation battles in California. In addition, the CRPA provides timely and valuable state and local pro-gun information and services via the CRPA monthly magazine, The Firing Line, or website: www.crpa.org.
Help NRA by joining CRPA as they fight on behalf of California firearms owners and all law-abiding citizens. The CRPA needs you as a member to help support, preserve, and expand your right to keep and bear arms in California.
Please join the CRPA today. Politicians who want to restrict your rights will listen to the collective voice of a strong CRPA and even if you can't join at this time, or if you are already a CRPA member, please gift or sign up a new member or just send a contribution to help us in this important cause.
SPECIAL LIMITED TIME OFFER!!! Anyone who becomes a CRPA LIFE MEMBER will also receive a FREE certificate from Front Sight Firearms Training Institute good for either: a Two-Day Defensive Hand gun, Two-Day Tactical Shotgun, or Two-Day Practical Rifle Course. (a $1,000.00 Value). There are 3 levels of CRPA Life membership:
CRPA Life Member - $325.00
Senior CRPA Life Member (age 65+) - $175.00
Disabled Veteran CRPA Life Member - $195.00
BRAND NEW!!!! Any and all of these levels of CRPA Life membership may now be paid in four easy installments. Please call (800) 305-2772 for more details on joining CRPA and thank you for your commitment to our cause.
Sincerely,
John C. Fields
Executive Director
California Rifle and Pistol Association
271 Imperial Highway, Suite 620
Fullerton, California 92835
Phone: (714) 992-2772
Fax: (714) 992-2996
Email: jcfields@crpa.org
Website: www.crpa.org
07-08-2010 | 12:06 PM
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I would explore other options besides Front Sight, especially for handgun training. First off, they are very rigid in their training curriculum. The instructors follow an outline for the course, and they do not deviate from it. You must do everything their way. Also, they insist on teaching outdated shooting techniques such as the Weaver stance. These days, 99.999% of high level shooters from competition handgun shooters to military SOF operators shoot Isosceles. It is accepted as the superior shooting stance hands down. Only Hollywood actors shoot Weaver.
Yeah it's cool they give you a free XD pistol, but I'd rather spend the money on better training than get a free gun.
If you're going to be in Nevada, I highly recommend taking a class LMS Defense instead.
www.lmsdefense.com/lms/home/
Yeah it's cool they give you a free XD pistol, but I'd rather spend the money on better training than get a free gun.
If you're going to be in Nevada, I highly recommend taking a class LMS Defense instead.
www.lmsdefense.com/lms/home/
Did you ask them about it when you were there? How long ago did you take a class?
I'm curious if they do this method for the defensive and something different for the tactical...
07-08-2010 | 07:00 PM
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I had to do some reading to know what you were talking about. It seems that the Weaver method has indeed been mostly replaced but no one says it's a bad technique, just outdated. I suppose it would be nice if they taught the newer ones instead. I'm sure they have their reasons why they do it this way. I mean, I get them wanting you do to it their way yet I know that everyone has an opinion on the correct way of doing things.
Did you ask them about it when you were there? How long ago did you take a class?
I'm curious if they do this method for the defensive and something different for the tactical...
Did you ask them about it when you were there? How long ago did you take a class?
I'm curious if they do this method for the defensive and something different for the tactical...
It might also be beneficial to get some instructional DVD's like the Magpul Dynamics Handgun videos also to supplement your training. Going to a class is great, but having something you can go back and watch to refresh yourself before and after training is also very useful. GL to you.
07-09-2010 | 10:02 AM
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Thank you!
I'll be starting here at Frontsight as I already got my class with the springfield XD but will certainly keep your suggestions in mind! Once I return I'll be sure to get some videos.
For now, I'm pretty excited to be going to this. I actually have an extra class offer with the whole package... PM me for details. They very clearly say that I can sell it but can't advertise* it.
*not an advertisement.
I'll be starting here at Frontsight as I already got my class with the springfield XD but will certainly keep your suggestions in mind! Once I return I'll be sure to get some videos.
For now, I'm pretty excited to be going to this. I actually have an extra class offer with the whole package... PM me for details. They very clearly say that I can sell it but can't advertise* it.
*not an advertisement.