Are FMICs legal?
#17
Nice, so the intercooler is legal. Even water injection is legal. Thanks aznboi. You made my day.
I still don't get it though. You have a car. You have a catalytic converter on. You pass the sniffer test. But yet you fail for keeping the environment clean because you modified the turbocharger.
I still don't get it though. You have a car. You have a catalytic converter on. You pass the sniffer test. But yet you fail for keeping the environment clean because you modified the turbocharger.
Last edited by Andrew; 02-07-2007 at 07:34 PM.
#18
Originally Posted by midnitewrx02
^ probably reffering to stock IC for stock turbo...if its not stock or doesnt have a carb sticker/number, its illegal in nazifornia.. simple as that
your wrong..... im a smog tech, and just took the 2007 update course, you can have the biggest intercooler you want on your car, it doesnt matter, and it doesnt affect any levels of gasses that are measure out of the tailpipe, not to mention that Subaru's and EVO's only require the TSI (Two Speed Idle) Test due to the fact that they are AWD. CARB numbers dont always matter either, the important number is the E.O. (Executive Order) number.
Anyone else got any questions feel free to ask. And no I wont hot smog anyones cars!!!
#19
Modifying your car to put in a fmic is illegal one way or another. the blow off valve? that dumps air into the atmostphere = illegal.
modifying the bumper beam i would believe that is illegal as well. i mean, there's going to be some law that you're breaking, just like removing cats. Still doesn't stop people.
i could be wrong tho. but i'm sure the moment u get popped because the officer sees the fmic, he'll ask you to open the hood, and he'll be inspecting for illegal mods, which would ultimately result in a fix it/state ref ticket regardless.
modifying the bumper beam i would believe that is illegal as well. i mean, there's going to be some law that you're breaking, just like removing cats. Still doesn't stop people.
i could be wrong tho. but i'm sure the moment u get popped because the officer sees the fmic, he'll ask you to open the hood, and he'll be inspecting for illegal mods, which would ultimately result in a fix it/state ref ticket regardless.
#20
Originally Posted by ProjektSTi
your wrong..... im a smog tech, and just took the 2007 update course, you can have the biggest intercooler you want on your car, it doesnt matter, and it doesnt affect any levels of gasses that are measure out of the tailpipe, not to mention that Subaru's and EVO's only require the TSI (Two Speed Idle) Test due to the fact that they are AWD. CARB numbers dont always matter either, the important number is the E.O. (Executive Order) number.
Anyone else got any questions feel free to ask. And no I wont hot smog anyones cars!!!
Anyone else got any questions feel free to ask. And no I wont hot smog anyones cars!!!
I have a question, has anyone in your course raised the question of why visual inspections are important? I'd like to know why.
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look at your engine bay. In CA, dont touch anything
except some intakes are CARB legal, but some cops are asshats and will give you a ticket anyways and tell you to take it up with the judge
where are you located and can you smog my car for me when it comes time?
except some intakes are CARB legal, but some cops are asshats and will give you a ticket anyways and tell you to take it up with the judge
Originally Posted by ProjektSTi
your wrong..... im a smog tech, and just took the 2007 update course, you can have the biggest intercooler you want on your car, it doesnt matter, and it doesnt affect any levels of gasses that are measure out of the tailpipe, not to mention that Subaru's and EVO's only require the TSI (Two Speed Idle) Test due to the fact that they are AWD. CARB numbers dont always matter either, the important number is the E.O. (Executive Order) number.
Anyone else got any questions feel free to ask. And no I wont hot smog anyones cars!!!
Anyone else got any questions feel free to ask. And no I wont hot smog anyones cars!!!
Last edited by VRT MBasile; 02-07-2007 at 07:46 PM.
#22
Originally Posted by aznboi320
they are legal got this off IWSTI
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-Gagan
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Originally Posted by AzN121184
Modifying your car to put in a fmic is illegal one way or another. the blow off valve? that dumps air into the atmostphere = illegal.
Alot of FMIC's you can keep the stock BoV and keep it recirculating...
From my understanding there is no law about intercoolers, and a guy I know whose relative is a smog tech, said you can't fail because of an intercooler... but I imagine you can get SENT to a smog tech because of an intercooler
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the intercooler part isn't illegal from what i've read BUT in order to run a FMIC you can't run the stock airbox. so changing out the intake to one that works with the FMIC is illegal.
#25
Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
Wait... that part right there "non thermostat..." blah blah blah... that means you can change the air filter to anything you want?
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-Gagan
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-Gagan
#26
Originally Posted by dan avoN7
the intercooler part isn't illegal from what i've read BUT in order to run a FMIC you can't run the stock airbox. so changing out the intake to one that works with the FMIC is illegal.
I'd wager money that the SPT intake will work with FMICs.
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Rivers got sent to the ref a while back and asked the guy if fmic's were legal and he said that the intercooler is legal but all the piping running through the engine bay makes it illegal, iirc.
#30
Originally Posted by mulcibre
I've seen intercoolers painted black with a black mesh over them, just looks like a grill. +1 for stealth modding.
legality aside, a bright chrome thing in your front bumper will attract a lot of attention from the fuzz.
legality aside, a bright chrome thing in your front bumper will attract a lot of attention from the fuzz.
Last edited by PerrinWrx04; 02-13-2007 at 01:59 AM.