i know its the jack *** move, but i would have brake checked the hell out of the truck that was on my *** with his brights on. legally if you cant see you can hit your brakes till either the situation has cleared up or passed you. but you have no legal reason to be speeding because the truck behind you was on your *** and blinding you. yes i agree it sucks. ive had people in lifted chevys on my *** with HID's in their stock reflectors and i slowed down to 25mph. the situation did cause a scene and we both got pulled over. i explained to the cop what happened and that i couldnt see and this guy was one my ***. i walked away scott free and he ended up with multiple tickets including aggressive driving, speeding, and fix it tickets for his exhaust, lights and lift.

 

Strider aka Calvin is very good at those written declarations, if you have the money to front up the fine have him write you a contest. Its always worth a try, I tried last year and the judge actually looked at my details and the things I provided and she lowered it from a 2 point misdemeanor to a 1 point with traffic school. Every try is worth it. If you want suggestions lemme know.

 

Not jackassery at all. I have no problem brake checking tailgaters.

 

i go slow wait for them to try and pass then downshift and not let them

 

i know, just usually when someone does the same thing to me im saying "jack ***" in my head, but i also dont run up on peoples asses. i just hate it when people "close the gap" for no reason other than pissing you off. i get way more upset when theyre doing 62 until when i go to pass then they speed up to 75 to prevent me from passing

 

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...light=trial+by

Hope this helps out.

 

Okay, if you are so against paying the fine and doing traffic school, this is what you are going to run into... The Judge will ask you why you felt it to be necessary to pass at 75mph when they were both going 65 (as you stated) with your reasoning. Your answer?
Dont get me wrong, Im not hating on your decision to pass, Im just saying why would a judge justify passing someone at 10mph over the speed limit when the other motorists were observing the posted limit. Does that make sense?

 

this!

MOVE THE **** OVER

and next time your being high beamed and held back by someone infront of you ... turn YOUR high beams on also!

i high beam slow drivers in the fast lane too... and can only hope the guy infront of me passes on the WTF signal too so we can all get the fast lane MOVING... something it rarely does now days with everyone surfing the web and texting

 

Was there a posted speed limit sign or a max speed limit sign in the area?

cvc 22350. No person shall drive a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable or prudent having due regard for weather, visibility, the traffic on, and the surface and width of, the highway, and in no event at a speed which endangers the safety of persons or property.

To bad this would not work for you.

 

+1...

cvc 21654(a) Slower vehicle, in left lane(s)

 

I would have to respectfully disagree with this argument.

From the sound of the scenario described, the defensive driver would have simply gotten into the #2 lane and held his speed (the speed limit). The Saturn would have been the object of Mr. Lifted Trucks' high beams, and then the choice of who to pull over would have been between the two people in the #1 (fast) lane. Since, in your account, Mr. Lifted Truck moved into the #2 lane with you, it would have simply given the CHP a better view of his driving - and he would have been pulled over.

Pay up, take a GOOD traffic school, something where you spend some quality time in a class with an instructor, and learn something from this lesson. Am I perfect? No. Do I drive fast? Sometimes, but if I get caught, I take responsibility for my actions - not try to blame anyone else.

BTW, keep a few good small (2 oz.) fishing weights handy in the car - toss them backwards and upwards. A 2 oz. lead weight hitting a windshield at traffic speeds will definitely slow Mr. Lifted Truck down significantly.

 

Normally yeah I would agree with you on that but it was said that the Saturn was doing 65 mph in the fast lane, and there is no law against that. Only the people with the preconceived notions that the left lane was meant for speeding get upset.

Like I said, you can not get in trouble under any circumstance for driving the posted speed limit in any lane.

 

So I assume you've never cited someone for "slower traffic keep right" or impeding traffic? Is that because fines for speeding tickets are more on average?

 

I'm gonna play a little devils advocate. If you had stayed in front of the truck, the officer would have been pulling him over for unsafe driving instead of you. Cops get antzy around 17 anyways just because of the high accident rate. However, since you were not posing a danger to you or anyone around you, he shouldn't have given you a ticket, just a warning. Sadly, its at the disgression of the officer, and you were going 10 miles over the speed limit. Usually anything over 5 above they tag you on. Now if the last time you got a ticket of any kind was 18 months or longer, you can take online traffic control classes. I honestly would just pay it and take the class. If you fight it, you still have to pay it but if you loose the argument, you CANNOT take the traffic class to get the point off your record. If you win, they keep your money anyway. I had something similar happen to me. The person in front of me slammed his brakes in the middle of a lane and the bus behind me was gonna squish me. So I changed lanes, however not using my blinker. The officer said "because you caused the vehicle behind you to apply their brakes, you created an unsafe situation and therefore I am giving you a ticket". I just had to suck it up and pay it and do the online traffic school. No point on your record when you do traffic school.

 

"Slower traffic keep right" and "Impeding traffic" still follow the basic principle of the speed limit. Sure, if someone was going 60 in the left lane and there were cars stacked behind, then that can dictate a ticket, but does that make it reasonable or acceptable to travel 75 around them? Not necessarily. It depends on the officers decision to write you a ticket or not.

If there is heavy flow of traffic because someone is going the posted speed limit, if any officer wrote that person a ticket they could easily take it to court and tell the judge what happened.

Regardless of what the law says about that, in this instance there was nothing that could be done about the Saturn following the rules of the road and driving 65 in whichever lane they chose. It is black and white in that regards.

**Also speeding tickets vary depending on how fast you get cited for, for instance a ticket for 75 in a 65 will be less than 85 in a65.