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Old 10-26-2010 | 12:55 PM
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damn with 340awhp you can pull on corvettes, an f430 and a porsche? i would have guessed the sti to have 400+
It looked like he was waved by when you get waved by the car waving you by does not usually make a race out of it!

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Old 10-26-2010 | 12:58 PM
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Old 10-26-2010 | 12:59 PM
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Old 10-26-2010 | 01:02 PM
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Old 10-26-2010 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by slugrx
damn with 340awhp you can pull on corvettes, an f430 and a porsche? i would have guessed the sti to have 400+
Come to the track sometime. You'll realize that among casual hobbyists it's often the driver that makes the big difference, not the car

Also the STI has very predicable handling, which helps casual track drivers build confidence, which in turn helps build speed. You'd have to really fumble/overcook things to spin an STI, even with the suspension tuned for no understeer under maintenance throttle. The STI loses grip very progressively in both under and over steer situations, and both can be corrected by very predictable adjustments to your throttle or brake inputs.

That predictability can build a false sense of confidence, which is dangerous because you can still go off in an STI. (In a place like Infineon with a lot of walls that can easily be a disaster.) The key is to use your confidence to build up speed slowly, not quickly.



Mid engined RWD cars aren't nearly as forgiving. Their rear-biased weight distribution means that when the back comes around (oversteer) it's a lot harder to bring back in line. And because of RWD + lots of power in a Ferrari, it's quite possible to use too much throttle when attempting to correct oversteer, spinning only the rear wheels and thereby probably spinning the car.

All that adds up to less confidence for most casual/hobbyist track drivers, which in turns means less speed. Then again modern Ferrari's have very fancy traction and stability control systems with track modes that are designed to keep you from spinning while pushing the car to its limits. They also have much narrower front tires than rears, again to keep them from being oversteering beasts. So maybe I shouldn't make excuses for slow Ferrari drivers



The Corvette has 50/50 weight distribution (or very close to it), but that's still more rear-biased than an STI, and everything I said about the Ferrari applies when comparing the Corvette to the STI as well.

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Old 10-26-2010 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by boxerfxt
It looked like he was waved by when you get waved by the car waving you by does not usually make a race out of it!
Even with point-by passing the passer is almost always running faster laps. Otherwise the point-by shouldn't have happened.

But your point is a good one - track days are not races.
Old 10-26-2010 | 01:20 PM
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Old 10-26-2010 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MattLGT
Come to the track sometime. You'll realize that among casual hobbyists it's often the driver that makes the big difference, not the car

Also the STI has very predicable handling, which helps casual track drivers build confidence, which in turn helps build speed. You'd have to really fumble/overcook things to spin an STI, even with the suspension tuned for no understeer under maintenance throttle. The STI loses grip very progressively in both under and over steer situations, and both can be corrected by very predictable adjustments to your throttle or brake inputs.

That predictability can build a false sense of confidence, which is dangerous because you can still go off in an STI. (In a place like Infineon with a lot of walls that can easily be a disaster.) The key is to use your confidence to build up speed slowly, not quickly.



Mid engined RWD cars aren't nearly as forgiving. Their rear-biased weight distribution means that when the back comes around (oversteer) it's a lot harder to bring back in line. And because of RWD + lots of power in a Ferrari, it's quite possible to use too much throttle when attempting to correct oversteer, spinning only the rear wheels and thereby probably spinning the car.

All that adds up to less confidence for most casual/hobbyist track drivers, which in turns means less speed. Then again modern Ferrari's have very fancy traction and stability control systems with track modes that are designed to keep you from spinning while pushing the car to its limits. They also have much narrower front tires than rears, again to keep them from being oversteering beasts. So maybe I shouldn't make excuses for slow Ferrari drivers



The Corvette has 50/50 weight distribution (or very close to it), but that's still more rear-biased than an STI, and everything I said about the Ferrari applies when comparing the Corvette to the STI as well.

Very good explanation. Infineon is also an intimidating track because of all the walls. This customer actually wrecked a car at Infineon previously, so he's definitely not pushing things too much yet. Considering he's still getting used to the car and powerband, we were very happy to see him passing cars like this .

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Old 10-26-2010 | 02:56 PM
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Check out this in car video from one of our customers!

YouTube - Two Laps of Infineon in 2006 Subaru STI

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1:59.1 is pretty respectable for a street car on street tires at SP, driving looks pretty good.

I like that camera angle as well, makes me think I need to get a GoPro hung off our front end somewhere to see what it looks like.

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Old 10-26-2010 | 03:00 PM
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1:59.1 is pretty respectable for a street car on street tires at SP, driving looks pretty good.

I like that camera angle as well, makes me think I need to get a GoPro hung off our front end somewhere to see what it looks like.

Mike
Thanks Mike. Its not bad at all considering he was holding back quite a bit as he's getting used to the car. I'm sure the suspension still needs some work as well.

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Old 10-26-2010 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EQ Tuning
Check out this in car video from one of our customers!

YouTube - Two Laps of Infineon in 2006 Subaru STI

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sick! lets do a trackday there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 10-26-2010 | 04:00 PM
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sick! lets do a trackday there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yea I'd love to do a track day there!

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Old 10-26-2010 | 04:04 PM
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too much money! and laguna seca is a way better track IMO. but last time I went I had my 964 and it was with pcca. talk about not wanting to pass! wow!
Old 10-26-2010 | 04:05 PM
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1:59.1 is pretty respectable for a street car on street tires at SP, driving looks pretty good.

I like that camera angle as well, makes me think I need to get a GoPro hung off our front end somewhere to see what it looks like.

Mike
gopro hung sounds like a **** name! leave it to mike!
Old 10-26-2010 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by boxerfxt
too much money! and laguna seca is a way better track IMO. but last time I went I had my 964 and it was with pcca. talk about not wanting to pass! wow!
If you think Infineon is too much then your not going to be able to ask Laguna for a quote not to mention 92db is about as gay as it gets, hell we were at 112db not even flat out this weekend.

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