OneManArmy

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The reasons given are bs! You think the terrorists don't hate us enough already then you don't understand where that hatted comes from. You don't think they'd plaster video and pictures everywhere if the rolls where reversed? Do you not remember the beheadings? Do you think attacks will escalate anymore with pictures than without? I don't. I have one brother over there now and one on the way. My fear for them skyrocketed when this news hit. Photos or not.

Want to stop the conspiracy then show the photos.... same as the birth certificate. Which means jack by the way.

gh0st shad0w

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I voted for pictures of the everyone taking a **** on him.

Turbo Rob

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The USA is one of the only countries that doesn't show graphic war related pictures. It is a way to hide the reality of War from the American people. It is my personal belief that if American's actually saw pictures of all the women and children that have died because of off target air-raids or collateral damage, there would be a lot more people against the war. Many of the people we don't want to enrage have already seen pictures of dead Muslims because of Al-Jazeera OR they have witnessed the death of relatives/neighbors first hand.

azer408

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I would honestly like to see the photo of Osama. However I do believe it would cause tension releasing the photos. I just feel theres a large amount of people who just want to be certain it was really him who was killed.

VRT MBasile

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I agree that it'd cause more international issues if they released, and feel that even if they were released the people saying right now "Pics or it didn't happen" would say they were fake. Therefore it seems like releasing the photos would fuel two fires that we don't need burning.

I think that sets us apart from them and makes us better people in the face of an unfortunate situation.

slugrx

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there are some people who believe he isn't dead and that the quick sea burial was a cover up by the US...so even if pictures were released, those people would think its photoshopped

JZ oo7

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i have a feeling the photos will eventually somehow get leaked. the US Govt can keep so many things secret, but a few photos they wouldn't be able to.

i personally don't think there's a need to release the photos.

VRT MBasile

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I hear they're already up on facebook, but set to "friends only." :|

luckistryke

If u believe this sh$t then u probably believe the "2 planes hit and 3 building drop story" too

iLoqin

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Too many US citizens have died in these past 10 years. Honor those who have died and show the world we are America.

Drop the hammer, talk later.

Show the picture, show why we are America.

Four vs Two

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1. I appreciate your brothers service.

2. Don't you think Bin Laden would have released a video or a recording if he wasn't dead? The whole point of not showing the photos, is that we are better than the terrorists. Americans don't need to stoop to their level. If we are going to lead the free world, then we need to set an example.

3. The birther augment is just racism in disguise. Even most Republicans in government think it's stupid. Give it a rest, not all Americans are white. Everything is not a conspiracy and if it was, what would be the point? Why wouldn't whoever you think is behind this conspiracy just put someone born in the US in the presidency, instead of going through all of this trouble? How does it make a difference? Stick with the "he's a socialist trying to take my money and my guns" arguement. At least it's somewhat understandable.

wongjonsilver

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Even if they released the pictures, who's to say it's really him? Body doubles (i.e. Saddam Hussein) are rampant in those parts. I think the best move would be to ship out all the troops in the MEast. America intends to instill democracy, but in the end we're the same as a dictatorship entity forcing an ideal upon the constituents.

OneManArmy

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1. Thank you. They're both better men than I am.

2. When is the last time OBL released a video? There is ZERO proof that it was him other than the word of those involved and the CIA is gonna do and say what the President says and so are the soldiers. They are honor bound to do so. I am NOT saying that is the case. I personally believe they did kill him. Just looking at this objectively.

Facts are this...
1. Obama's ratings are dropping as fast as our national debt is rising.
2. He's beginning the start to his push for re-election.
3. They JUST released his birth certificate a few days before this happened.
The birth certificate is NOT a long time/original unless I'm mistaken there. And beyond that it doesn't matter. Unless what I'm reading is wrong, his parents were not born in the states and there for he can not be president as our constitution states. But that **** doesn't matter at this point to me. I'm just stating what's out there.
4. There is no body
5. The only DNA says that it is a relative to the OBL relative sample they have. So it could be a brother or a cousin.
6. What did people expect to happen? They preach an open book policy by releasing the certificate and then don't show any proof of the biggest USA moment in our fight against terror... this fight that we have lost over 7000 soldiers too so far.

That's the part that gets me... that people are surprised that americans want proof.

Also... I don't see it as stooping. We didn't capture a journalist and torture them and cut their head off on video released to the world. I see it as being what this world needs in leadership. Stepping up to the plate and taking down a terrible person high up in a terrible movement. For proof all they needed to do was bring his body home and save some DNA samples. This burial at sea thing is retarded.

You want to be leaders in this world... you want to change this economic downturn and start putting a dent in these evil bastards... STAND FIRM. HOLD FAST.

There is nothing wrong with killing that mother ****er and letting the world know we did it.

3. I kind of addressed that. I'm far from racist. I have family that is blacker than he is. I could give two ****s about him being black. It was a black guy or a woman and the whole world knows it. No way in hell a republican was getting in to office after Bush.

The certificate issue has nothing to do with race in most people's minds. I'm sure there are a lot of racists in the argument but it is not a racist argument. It has more to do with how iffy his natural born citizenship is. The only reason he fits is that he was born in the US (Hawaii) and even on that provision alone it's VERY sketchy that he meets the requirements to be president as his father is kenyan and his mother did not live in the US for the required amount of her adulthood before his birth.... etc. etc. Him proving he was born in hawaii and meets the requirements to be presidents should not have been difficult and it should NOT have been a big deal.

The fact that he couldn't/wouldn't is what made it a big deal. Hell he shouldn't have been able to run for nomination without the correct paperwork. I can't get a friggin passport without proper documentation.





So I think that it is very ignorant to narrow it down to race at all let alone race alone. But opinions are opinions and I'm not even stating mine. I am just looking at what's out there as objective as I can.

Wrxneffect

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How is it sketchy that he meets the requirements of being president? He was born in the US, he is at least 35 years old and he has lived in the US for at least 14 years. His parents nationality has nothing to do with the fact that he was born in Hawaii. If you are born in the US you are a US citizen unless you decide you don't want to be a US citizen. Unless you are thinking his birth certificate was forged then I can see why you would say it's sketchy. His mother's time in the US and his parents nationality only play a role if he was trying to become a citizen through naturalization.

OneManArmy

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That was my point. The only reason he has standing is because he was born in Hawaii. Every other factor makes him not eligible and he had no proof. You have to show your birth certificate in order to get your drivers license... you don't find it odd that a man was able to rise through politics to the presidency without anyone ever seeing a birth certificate until just now? I have had more original copies of mine than I can count... old and new. I changed my name. I have one from 1977. That is everyone's point. It should not be an outrageous request but it was made one.

Everyone's question is... Why?

That has nothing to do with race. It's a valid question. You should be required to show proof of natural born citizenship before you can even run for president. PERIOD.

If he had... it wouldn't have been an issue. He could have said... here you go...

That was my only point. I don't doubt that it's real. Could be. Might not be. Doesn't matter now. He's the president. Period.

I don't care. I'm just making a point.


It's the same situation with the osama ordeal. It would not have been hard for them to take a picture of him cleaned up and have it on disposal. All they do have is their word.


I honestly don't care. If he was dead 10 years ago or if he just got killed, doesn't really matter. The terror network doesn't need him and they don't need any more excuses to hate and kill americans.