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Old 10-20-2004 | 10:21 PM
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crazy wastegate fluttering

hey everyone, i'm getting some crazy fluttering sounds, even when i'm not at full boost or throttle, right now i just have an axleback on my car, wtf? is it the waste gate or ? any ideas?

it's like ssssssssssss-fu-fu-fu-fu-ss-s-s-suf-uf-fu if you know what i mean lol. I can try to get a video clip of it or something too
Old 10-20-2004 | 11:17 PM
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Mine just started doing that too, in 5th. I have more than an axleback though.
Old 10-20-2004 | 11:17 PM
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thats a lot of fu's
Old 10-21-2004 | 02:10 AM
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haha, yea, what gives anyway?i only got 9000 miles on my ride.
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here you guys go.... I don't have time to summerize right now... maybe tomorow:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425018
Old 10-21-2004 | 08:39 AM
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my 04 seems to 'buck' if I let off the gas too soon when im about to shift[4K-5.4K RPM.
Is this waste gate flutter just a noise, or does it actually effect performance?
Old 10-21-2004 | 09:07 AM
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my 04 seems to 'buck' if I let off the gas too soon when im about to shift[4K-5.4K RPM.
Is this waste gate flutter just a noise, or does it actually effect performance?
Thats not waste gate flutter, it's a quirk of an '04 WRX. Mine did the same thing until I reflashed the ECU using a Cobb Accessport. Since the reflash the bucking has gone away.
Old 10-21-2004 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by percula
hey everyone, i'm getting some crazy fluttering sounds, even when i'm not at full boost or throttle, right now i just have an axleback on my car, wtf? is it the waste gate or ? any ideas?

it's like ssssssssssss-fu-fu-fu-fu-ss-s-s-suf-uf-fu if you know what i mean lol. I can try to get a video clip of it or something too
if you're somewhat mechanical/technical you can monkey with the little adjustment **** to the wastegate actuator, sometimes that helps.
Old 10-21-2004 | 10:54 AM
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if you're somewhat mechanical/technical you can monkey with the little adjustment **** to the wastegate actuator, sometimes that helps.
heh heh heh, you said "monkey".....LMAO......sorry, couldnt resist.

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here you guys go.... I don't have time to summerize right now... maybe tomorow:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425018

Ok guys.... here's the meat of that thread:
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Allright guys, looking over the problem, I noticed our adjustable WG actuator. Well, I took off the heatshield, popped off the C clip, and tightened (shortened) the arm 4 turns. Popped it back on and went for a drive and there is now significantly less flutter Before the adjustment I heard flutter at most RPM at very low boost. Now I can only hear a quieter hint of it around 4kRPM under 8-10psi. It deffinately sound healthier and spools a bit quicker as well.

Here's the theory behind it if anyone's interested:
When we all put on turbobacks with much less restriction than the stock exhaust, we also removed that backpressure helping the WG to stay closed under lowe boost. By shortening the actuator arm, you're putting a pre-load on the spring and using the preload to hold the WG shut longer. Be careful not to overtighten as this may cause spiking (from personal experience ).

Try it out and let me know if it works.

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The trick here is to adjust the wastegate actuator arm enough turns to put a very slight pre-load on it when putting it back on. Too much pre-load and you'll exhibit spiking, and not enough and you won't have much effect on the flutter. It takes a couple tries to get it right.

Here's a pictures:


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Old 10-21-2004 | 12:34 PM
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awesome! i'll give it a shot. by the way, do you go to UC Davis? I graduated there last year, anyway thanks again.
Old 10-21-2004 | 02:18 PM
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yep.. I'm a fourth year here.

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Old 10-21-2004 | 08:05 PM
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nice. Hey it worked out great! It might be in my head but my car actually feels smoother now when i accelerate! By the way, I had to turn it 1.25 times over.
Old 10-29-2004 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by percula
nice. Hey it worked out great! It might be in my head but my car actually feels smoother now when i accelerate! By the way, I had to turn it 1.25 times over.

How'd you turn it 1 1/4 turns? It's only half turn incrememnts. I'm going to do it this weekend. Since I put on the twindump DP the flutter kills me, sound like the worst case of knock known to man.
Old 10-29-2004 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by percula
nice. Hey it worked out great! It might be in my head but my car actually feels smoother now when i accelerate! By the way, I had to turn it 1.25 times over.
Great! My car felt a bit quicker and smoother once the wastegate was adjusted. This is because the WG is no longer leaking exhaust gasses before you reach target boost.

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