CHP Crackdown Today
08-11-2009, 10:41 AM
#31
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"Driving while using a hands-free device is not safer than using a hand held cell phone, as concluded by case-crossover studies.[2][3] epidemiological,[4][5] simulation,[7] and meta-analysis[9][10]. The increased "cognitive workload" involved in holding a conversation, not the use of hands, causes the increased risk.[13][14][15] One notable exception to that conclusion is a study by headset manufacturer Plantronics, which found 71 percent of the test subjects steered more accurately, 100 percent had faster brake reaction times, and 92 percent maintained a more consistent speed when using a headset versus handheld.[16] The consistency of increased crash risk between hands-free and hand held cell phone use is at odds with legislation in many locations that prohibits hand held cell phone use but allows hands-free. Dialing a cell phone is more distracting than talking on a cell phone, [17] and hands-free devices that offer voice-dialing may reduce or eliminate that increased risk."
yeah i don't really see how the actual act of holding the phone is the problem. i think lots of people already can normally drive with just one hand. i bet the hands-free law was pushed by motorola, plantronics, etc. it was right before father's day i remember, and guess what the most popular father's day gift was last year? cell phone wireless headsets! probably...
money in the bank
08-11-2009, 10:45 AM
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I would much rather have the CHP ticketing people for cell phone talking (and driving like idiots) than "10 over the speed limit".
Realistically, it seems that someone NOT distracted with a cell phone driving 75mph is way safer than someone doing 50 in the fast lane yapping on their phone.
Sure, speed kills
(45 is safer than 55, 35 is safer than 45, 0 is safer than 35...), but distraction probably kills more.
Realistically, it seems that someone NOT distracted with a cell phone driving 75mph is way safer than someone doing 50 in the fast lane yapping on their phone.
Sure, speed kills
(45 is safer than 55, 35 is safer than 45, 0 is safer than 35...), but distraction probably kills more.
08-11-2009, 11:12 AM
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I'm not finding anything confirming that. In fact, everything I'm coming across says the opposite. Mind providing a source of some kind?
08-11-2009, 11:29 AM
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(a) A person who drives a vehicle upon a highway in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty of reckless driving
A officer could with ease state if you were reading while driving, you were a willful hazard to others.
08-11-2009, 11:41 AM
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DARN! I was so enjoying driving while using my laptop to surf the web from my iphone's bridged 3G connection while sipping my grande iced mocha latte frappamochachinolatte, pleasuring my mouth with a bagel and having a skype video conference call with my gay german businesspartner/lover.
Damn CHP ruining my morning productivity quotient.
Damn CHP ruining my morning productivity quotient.
08-11-2009, 11:43 AM
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DARN! I was so enjoying driving while using my laptop to surf the web from my iphone's bridged 3G connection while sipping my grande iced mocha latte frappamochachinolatte, pleasuring my mouth with a bagel and having a skype video conference call with my gay german businesspartner/lover.
Damn CHP ruining my morning productivity quotient.
Damn CHP ruining my morning productivity quotient.
08-11-2009, 12:12 PM
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Look under Article 1, 23103, reckless driving. Section A states...
(a) A person who drives a vehicle upon a highway in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty of reckless driving
A officer could with ease state if you were reading while driving, you were a willful hazard to others.
(a) A person who drives a vehicle upon a highway in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty of reckless driving
A officer could with ease state if you were reading while driving, you were a willful hazard to others.
Perhaps one of the many law enforcement officers that visit this site can give us some input?
08-11-2009, 12:34 PM
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Interesting. I've never heard it described as "reading something while driving is illegal because of the reckless driving law." That seems like a pretty broad application of the law, doesn't it?
Perhaps one of the many law enforcement officers that visit this site can give us some input?
Perhaps one of the many law enforcement officers that visit this site can give us some input?
08-11-2009, 12:43 PM
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I'll tell you, it's some scary **** to have an allergic fit while driving. I've only had to pull over once due to it but it is completely incapacitating. You'll be freaking out over it before any cop will be up your *** about driving while it's happening to you.
08-11-2009, 12:50 PM
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DARN! I was so enjoying driving while using my laptop to surf the web from my iphone's bridged 3G connection while sipping my grande iced mocha latte frappamochachinolatte, pleasuring my mouth with a bagel and having a skype video conference call with my gay german businesspartner/lover.
Damn CHP ruining my morning productivity quotient.
Damn CHP ruining my morning productivity quotient.
