Chages files against 12 smog refs in SJ for "Clean Piping"

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Old 10-22-2009 | 03:19 PM
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the thing thats stopping them is the shops say they cant afford it

only a few will be able to


w00t crappy economy
Old 10-22-2009 | 03:24 PM
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the place i went last Dec had never even smogged a wrx before!
Still had my AP in and the guy (like 50 something) was like:
"So whats this?"
-"Uhh engine management"
"so you dont have any check engine lights then eh, haha"
-"Nope sure dont "
"where are your O2 sensors?"......"eh ill just trust you have them"

Old 10-22-2009 | 03:30 PM
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Old 10-22-2009 | 03:58 PM
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yep too much money for the shops and not enough awd cars yet!!!!
Old 10-22-2009 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by stupidchicken03
the place i went last Dec had never even smogged a wrx before!
Still had my AP in and the guy (like 50 something) was like:
"So whats this?"
-"Uhh engine management"
"so you dont have any check engine lights then eh, haha"
-"Nope sure dont "
"where are your O2 sensors?"......"eh ill just trust you have them"

I swapped my downpipe back on but left the catless uppipe on and then went to a shop where the guy didn't even speak English, I knew he wasn't going to know the difference between a flex joint and a cat... if he even looked at all.
Old 10-22-2009 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by VRT MBasile
I swapped my downpipe back on but left the catless uppipe on and then went to a shop where the guy didn't even speak English, I knew he wasn't going to know the difference between a flex joint and a cat... if he even looked at all.
yup thats what i had/have.
Old 10-22-2009 | 06:14 PM
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i dont know if this makes a difference for the smog sensor they put in the exhaust pipe, but when you have dual exhaust, they only have one sensor. My old Blown Taco (Superchrged Tacoma tuned) passed a smog test in Sunnyvale.
Old 10-22-2009 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by willow
Allow high flow cats as long it meets standard emission outputs. That will encourage more enthusiasts to comply with smog checks.
This. You should be able to do whatever modifications you want. As long as you're burning clean enough to pass the test then it's all good. Of course, lobbyists cant help their clients make money off a program like that.

Originally Posted by ScoobySon
i dont know if this makes a difference for the smog sensor they put in the exhaust pipe, but when you have dual exhaust, they only have one sensor.
Do you think the exhaust coming out of one tail pipe is different than the exhaust coming out of the other.
Old 10-22-2009 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by stylin525
My friend just lost his shop...THey weren;t effin around. They put up surveilance and everything.....sorry boys no more smogs from me..... Sad day for my subby also.....:sadbana na:
A perfect example of wasted law enforcement budget. And they wonder why the state is so broke. Theres so many real crimes happening and they are have the surveilence teams trying to bust some car enthusiasts just trying to be able to register their cars (which registration has doubled as well, I wonder why?).
Old 10-23-2009 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
What makes you think hiflows won't pass the sniffer? I passed through state ref with my last car with a high flow and passed.

I have a hard time believing that a wrx with say a catless up pipe and 2 high flows would fail the sniffer if it was tuned to do so.


Originally Posted by sigma pi
tuned
a stock regular car is what they are going to be running it on

and if you dont have a carb number on the cats it should not have passed the ref

but YAY!! you did thats awesome


when i got my ref ticket it would have costed me 500-600$ under the table to have mine pass

Sigma is CORRECT, you shouldn't have even passed. You may "pass" the sniffer test, but if that cat does not have any carb/eo #s and/or they do NOT match to be for your vehicle you should have failed.

so meaning even if you know you will pass with any ol cat, if the #s dont match after they research it to say its for your vehicle its an auto-fail.

nice state ref you got there if they overlooked this, or you got lucky.

and yes FMIC is legal.

to the person who got turned away, refer to the smog handbook, its clearly stated on there.
Old 10-23-2009 | 01:09 AM
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How can a state ref check all your cats like that? The first cat isn't the easiest thing to get to.. .

Also, wouldn't it be easy to use the old cat's numbers and such and put them onto the new one?

When I got my RS reffed a while back (like 10 years ago) the guy didn't really do much... Did the sniffer, inspected my engine bay, and that was it... Took like 30 mins all together with paper work. I had a cat back exhaust on, and all he did was look under the car for like a second to see if the cats were there... I remember thinking "damn, I could have had hi-flow cats and he wouldn't have even known".
Old 10-23-2009 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by boxerfxt
yep too much money for the shops and not enough awd cars yet!!!!
pretty much hwo it is

but they want it
Old 10-23-2009 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DUB
Do you think the exhaust coming out of one tail pipe is different than the exhaust coming out of the other.
well if one cat is screwed or an 02 sensor is going out maybe
but im sure one bank is ever so slightly better than the other

but enough to pass fail i dunno

but if we had two banks running it we would only have to put on cat back on
Old 10-23-2009 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by eugenile
Sigma is CORRECT, you shouldn't have even passed. You may "pass" the sniffer test, but if that cat does not have any carb/eo #s and/or they do NOT match to be for your vehicle you should have failed.

so meaning even if you know you will pass with any ol cat, if the #s dont match after they research it to say its for your vehicle its an auto-fail.

nice state ref you got there if they overlooked this, or you got lucky.

and yes FMIC is legal.

to the person who got turned away, refer to the smog handbook, its clearly stated on there.
oh crap this guy knows his stuff

i dont have to answer questions any more

yeah it was a good deal for him we should all go to that guy

the rule on the intercooler is:
if it has one, you have to have one on there any kind on it

if it didnt come with one, you dont have to have one but can put one
Originally Posted by brucelee
How can a state ref check all your cats like that? The first cat isn't the easiest thing to get to.. .

Also, wouldn't it be easy to use the old cat's numbers and such and put them onto the new one?

When I got my RS reffed a while back (like 10 years ago) the guy didn't really do much... Did the sniffer, inspected my engine bay, and that was it... Took like 30 mins all together with paper work. I had a cat back exhaust on, and all he did was look under the car for like a second to see if the cats were there... I remember thinking "damn, I could have had hi-flow cats and he wouldn't have even known".
what year was it? OBDII or OBDI

maybe they cahnged the rules since then. I dont know about 10 years ago, i can barely remember three
Old 10-23-2009 | 08:36 AM
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