Can someone suggest a weapon?
06-30-2009, 10:01 AM
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Burglars often arm themselves in case of confrontation. Burglars often use tools to gain entry to the premise which can be used as make shift weapons.
Burglars are often times drug users who are looking to steal property to sell in order to feed their need.
Im not saying this is 100% true, but it has been like this in my experience.
Ill give you an example. Officers arrive on scene to a posssible burglary. Suspects flee while shooting a shotgun at the officers. All 5 suspects taken into custody. 4 firearms recovered.
06-30-2009, 10:27 AM
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06-30-2009, 03:01 PM
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I would figure people would run from you like the plague and eventually someone will call the cops on you.
Very interesting though.
07-04-2009, 02:55 PM
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nuff said
http://www.the-backup.com/faq.html
as bad as it may get i can promise you that you never want to have to shoot someone.thats something that never goes away.hell,you put a gun in someones face and you will be shaking for hours after.trust me,get a safe and a shotgun.you rack a round and chances are they will flee,if not less chance of missing.plus its a good weapon if you run out of ammo
http://www.the-backup.com/faq.html
as bad as it may get i can promise you that you never want to have to shoot someone.thats something that never goes away.hell,you put a gun in someones face and you will be shaking for hours after.trust me,get a safe and a shotgun.you rack a round and chances are they will flee,if not less chance of missing.plus its a good weapon if you run out of ammo
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07-04-2009, 09:08 PM
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He has been arrested twice, not booked, not charged and released same day, I think with his weapon.
He has had his carry weapon confiscated twice, that I know of, without being arrested, once by the local El Cerrito PD about a year before they "raided" his home.
More recently, he had his family on vacation - coming back from LA (not disneyland, haha), and a passing car/truck/RV something, saw him open carrying, called the CHP and told them he waved his gun at them when they cut him off. CHP stopped him, with LOTS of cars on the grapevine, with kids and all in the car, cuffed him, took him to a jail cell, tore his car (Escalade) apart, every seat cushion and panel - his wife and the kids were wearing shorts and they were not allowed into their luggage to get money or anything else so no food/money for many hours while they tore apart his car, family was not detained, but had no way to do anything. They issued a misdemeanor for using a firearm to settle a traffic dispute.
He fought the citation - and won, because the people that accused him did NOT want to testify..btw, the damage to his car was over $5K to repair. Lawyer fees were around $10K because it did NOT go to trial. The DA tried very hard to make him deal on the firearm ticket, but he held firm and reused any deal. He does not want to jeopardize his ability to carry/own in the future.
The most important thing to do if you do get arrested or detained, ASK FOR A LAWYER, do NOT talk to LE.
If you choose to do this, you will get hassled. LE doesn't like to see open carry of anything.
07-05-2009, 02:57 AM
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I have a friend that open carries, he's had his house searched, legally with a warrant, and all of his firearms confiscated...for a couple of days, then he had to go down to the El Cerrito police station and collect his guns. He has lots, mostly NATO military. The police kind of tore up his home too, all at his expense, he has no recourse to bill the city for it.
He has been arrested twice, not booked, not charged and released same day, I think with his weapon.
He has had his carry weapon confiscated twice, that I know of, without being arrested, once by the local El Cerrito PD about a year before they "raided" his home.
More recently, he had his family on vacation - coming back from LA (not disneyland, haha), and a passing car/truck/RV something, saw him open carrying, called the CHP and told them he waved his gun at them when they cut him off. CHP stopped him, with LOTS of cars on the grapevine, with kids and all in the car, cuffed him, took him to a jail cell, tore his car (Escalade) apart, every seat cushion and panel - his wife and the kids were wearing shorts and they were not allowed into their luggage to get money or anything else so no food/money for many hours while they tore apart his car, family was not detained, but had no way to do anything. They issued a misdemeanor for using a firearm to settle a traffic dispute.
He fought the citation - and won, because the people that accused him did NOT want to testify..btw, the damage to his car was over $5K to repair. Lawyer fees were around $10K because it did NOT go to trial. The DA tried very hard to make him deal on the firearm ticket, but he held firm and reused any deal. He does not want to jeopardize his ability to carry/own in the future.
The most important thing to do if you do get arrested or detained, ASK FOR A LAWYER, do NOT talk to LE.
If you choose to do this, you will get hassled. LE doesn't like to see open carry of anything.
He has been arrested twice, not booked, not charged and released same day, I think with his weapon.
He has had his carry weapon confiscated twice, that I know of, without being arrested, once by the local El Cerrito PD about a year before they "raided" his home.
More recently, he had his family on vacation - coming back from LA (not disneyland, haha), and a passing car/truck/RV something, saw him open carrying, called the CHP and told them he waved his gun at them when they cut him off. CHP stopped him, with LOTS of cars on the grapevine, with kids and all in the car, cuffed him, took him to a jail cell, tore his car (Escalade) apart, every seat cushion and panel - his wife and the kids were wearing shorts and they were not allowed into their luggage to get money or anything else so no food/money for many hours while they tore apart his car, family was not detained, but had no way to do anything. They issued a misdemeanor for using a firearm to settle a traffic dispute.
He fought the citation - and won, because the people that accused him did NOT want to testify..btw, the damage to his car was over $5K to repair. Lawyer fees were around $10K because it did NOT go to trial. The DA tried very hard to make him deal on the firearm ticket, but he held firm and reused any deal. He does not want to jeopardize his ability to carry/own in the future.
The most important thing to do if you do get arrested or detained, ASK FOR A LAWYER, do NOT talk to LE.
If you choose to do this, you will get hassled. LE doesn't like to see open carry of anything.
07-05-2009, 03:34 AM
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I have a box of variety shells that I picked up years ago at some show. I have shells that vary from standard flechette to mini nails, long needles, short needles, barbs, and all sorts of nasty things to get hit by... A couple of them have been purposely rusted for maximum effect.
Of course they are "FOR NOVELTY REASONS ONLY!"
07-05-2009, 10:00 PM
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He's a truck driver, he cannot get a CC permit good for crossing state and county lines, actually, a CC permit anywhere in the bay area is pretty much non existent unless you have a job that involves regular moving of large amounts of money. He is a BIG 4th amendment supporter. He claims he can load any of his handguns in 1 second.
He's been held up at gun point twice, for his load, he happened to be cleaning his weapons both times (he either is playing the guitar or cleaning his weapons)...they didn't get the load either time. He has also had the whole rig, tractor and trailer, stolen once, while he was at home sleeping.
It's legal to carry open unloaded, he is fine with this - but he gets hassled. He is not fine with the hassling, he has won a couple of court cases against local PD involving this, but no money from what I know.
(I haven't seen him in a couple of years, but AFAIK, he still OC's)
07-06-2009, 07:33 AM
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Hell yeah my friend!
I have a box of variety shells that I picked up years ago at some show. I have shells that vary from standard flechette to mini nails, long needles, short needles, barbs, and all sorts of nasty things to get hit by... A couple of them have been purposely rusted for maximum effect.
Of course they are "FOR NOVELTY REASONS ONLY!"
I have a box of variety shells that I picked up years ago at some show. I have shells that vary from standard flechette to mini nails, long needles, short needles, barbs, and all sorts of nasty things to get hit by... A couple of them have been purposely rusted for maximum effect.
Of course they are "FOR NOVELTY REASONS ONLY!"
07-11-2009, 10:55 AM
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He's a truck driver, he cannot get a CC permit good for crossing state and county lines, actually, a CC permit anywhere in the bay area is pretty much non existent unless you have a job that involves regular moving of large amounts of money. He is a BIG 4th amendment supporter. He claims he can load any of his handguns in 1 second.
He's been held up at gun point twice, for his load, he happened to be cleaning his weapons both times (he either is playing the guitar or cleaning his weapons)...they didn't get the load either time. He has also had the whole rig, tractor and trailer, stolen once, while he was at home sleeping.
It's legal to carry open unloaded, he is fine with this - but he gets hassled. He is not fine with the hassling, he has won a couple of court cases against local PD involving this, but no money from what I know.
(I haven't seen him in a couple of years, but AFAIK, he still OC's)
He's been held up at gun point twice, for his load, he happened to be cleaning his weapons both times (he either is playing the guitar or cleaning his weapons)...they didn't get the load either time. He has also had the whole rig, tractor and trailer, stolen once, while he was at home sleeping.
It's legal to carry open unloaded, he is fine with this - but he gets hassled. He is not fine with the hassling, he has won a couple of court cases against local PD involving this, but no money from what I know.
(I haven't seen him in a couple of years, but AFAIK, he still OC's)
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