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Old 04-22-2010, 09:43 AM
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Blue Gold - World Water Wars

Okay, I'm not Mr. Crazy Earth Day Activist Hippy Man or anything, but this documentary had some CRAZY things to say.

http://www.bluegold-worldwaterwars.com/

It's about the privatization of the water industry. I'm sure there is a certain amount of it that is propaganda, but it had a lot of interesting points that I never even thought of.

I saw it on Netflix online. If you have the time, take a look, seriously.

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a couple of video clips from their facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...p?v=8688407770

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...v=262987447770

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=297559407770

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea
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Here are some links to water privatization info. There are like 5 huge multi-national companies that are buying up water rights all over the world.

http://www.google.com/search?aq=0&oq...+privatization
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Um yeah, we privatized like nearly all other vital resources, it's only a matter of time with water, and maybe even air one day.
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Yeah, but water is not like oil, or electricity. You NEED water to LIVE. WTO and NAFTA have classified water as a commodity/trade good. I think that is a dangerous idea.

http://www.foodfirst.org/en/node/57

Second, water pricing, combined with privatization, will seal water's fate as a commodity under the terms of international trade agreements supported by the World Trade Organization (WTO) and the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). Both the WTO and NAFTA consider water to be a tradeable good, subject to the same rules as any other good. Only if water is maintained as a public service, delivered and protected by governments, can water be exempted from the onerous enforcement measurements of these trade deals. Claiming environmental exemptions for water will not suffice. Every single time the WTO has been used to challenge a domestic environmental rule, the corporations have won and the environmental protection has been ruled 'trade illegal.'
That is a scary thought. They can drain a water table and we can't stop them because it is "trade illegal". I think taking water from one part of the world and transporting and selling it in another part of the world is wrong. You are taking water out of the natural cycle and moving it somewhere else. What kind of impact is that going to have?

Owens Lake, Aral Sea...

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Originally Posted by ryball
Yeah, but water is not like oil, or electricity. You NEED water to LIVE. WTO and NAFTA have classified water as a commodity/trade good. I think that is a dangerous idea.

http://www.foodfirst.org/en/node/57



That is a scary thought. They can drain a water table and we can't stop them because it is "trade illegal". I think taking water from one part of the world and transporting and selling it in another part of the world is wrong. You are taking water out of the natural cycle and moving it somewhere else. What kind of impact is that going to have?

Owens Lake, Aral Sea...
I completely agree, but I'm just saying.
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Not just corporate stuff (which is bad enough)... things like this too:

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/China...eft-18230.html

» 04/24/2010 12:36

CHINA - INDIA
China builds world's highest dam, India fears water theft
The dam will rise to 3,260 meters, on Yarlung Zangbo River (Brahmaputra, for Indians) using special materials and techniques. But India notes that the river is essential to the lives of millions of people and calls for assurances that Beijing does not seem to want to give. For that zone a war was fought that has never officially ended.


Beijing (AsiaNews / Agencies) - China has admitted that it is building a dam on the Yarlung Zangbo River. The river originates in Tibet, but then flows into India where it is called Brahmaputra and is a major water source for millions of people. Moreover, the dam will be built in the area near the border disputed between the two countries.

China outlined the project this month, in a private meeting with Indian Foreign Minister S M Krishna. The dam will be built in Zangmu at a height of 3,260 meters, in the Shannan Prefecture in Tibet and nearby four other dams will also be built in the valley between Jiacha and Sangro counties. Official sources said yesterday that the overall capacity of the dams will be "several times" more than the gigantic Three Gorges Dam. Because of its altitude, the area is often subjected to extreme weather conditions and special materials and technologies will be used, developed by the Chinese space agency. For example special cement made at the laboratories of the Xichang satellite launch Centre.

Beijing plans to draw from the Dangmu dam no less than 500 megawatts of electricity to meet the growing demand for Guangdong and Hong Kong and sell it to neighbouring countries like Myanmar, Thailand, Bangladesh, Laos and Cambodia.

India is however very worried about the plan, fearing a decrease in the flow of the river water in India and the destruction of the Himalayas ecosystem. Above all the agriculture and industry of the north-eastern states of India depend heavily on the Brahmaputra river.

In addition, with this project China will directly control more than 90 thousand square meters of land the sovereignty of which is disputed between India and China, who fought a war that has never formally ended and who still station armed forces in the area. China responds that the dam will allow it to develop clean energy and reduce carbon dioxide emissions resulting from coal fired power plants.

Experts say that, however, Beijing has not responded to Indian concerns over the decline of the Brahmaputra river. Indian sources have observed that even if the dam is located in Chinese territory, however, international law provides that the work should not diminish the course of the river. Similarly, Beijing has never responded to the concerns of Thailand, Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia over the Chinese dams on the Mekong River in Yunnan.

India appears on the brink of raising its concerns at an international level.




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this documentary can be steamed off of net flix right now.
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Originally Posted by 455h013
this documentary can be steamed off of net flix right now.
Did you watch it?
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Haven't seen the documentary but did they talk about the thing in Bolivia over a decade ago?

http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/st.../timeline.html
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