dr3d1zzl3

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WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY!


"that's the reason the MPAA, the RIAA and all other organizations is coming down for legit (and you cannot give me a reason what your going is legal) forms of archiving.
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mexicanpizza

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mmmboost...don't call this guy a dick because he told it like it is.

I don't care what you guys do...but you shouldn't ream this guy because you didn't like hearing that you're stealing a movie blatantly.

Ha ha!

mexicanpizza

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It was pretty clear dude. It's actually illegal to make backup copies of your own DVDs ("legit form of archiving"), because of the fact that people will sell them to everyone that they know.

ldivinag

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maybe you dont remember. back when CD-Rs were just starting to come along, the RIAA wanted to tax each blank disc.

why? they said they wanted to do that so it could stem the onslaught of piracy. and if that is the case, the tax would then go to the recording artists as a sort of PRE-payment.

now, take a look at HDCP and all sort of protection schemes that are in place because of all the "future" piracy that these groups believe will happen.

in fact, as short as 6-8 months ago, CBS threatened to stop their HDTV broadcast if the FCC did not allow the copy inhibit flag to be present in the current standards of a digital television. thank goodness they folded. but there are still tons of schemes out there being thrown for the sake of protecting digital content.

now, as a consumer, would i like all sort of hoops i must go through in order to record any broadcast out there?

hell no.

but it's out there. just take a look at the steps to LEGALLY copy a DVD for one's own archiving purposes. it's a headache.

btw, dont forget to list what type of job you do for my study...

mexicanpizza

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I'm a Ph.D. in genetics. I do molecular biology research for a "living".

mmboost

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For some reason, I tried to have a decent PM converastion with ldivinag. He seems to think I am all butthurt. When all I want to know is, why does he bother to put his two cents into a thread where he obviously doesn't want to be part of it. Now he's asked me to post it to the thread.... it makes you happy, here it goes.

== I wrote
Geez, man, what the hell is your problem? if you dont like it, dont participate. You're just making yourself out to be a major jerk. I didn't really know you from Shinola. But now, all I know of you is that you're some negative, pompous *** that looks for places to put his two cents where obviously no one wants it. You wake up on the wrong side of the bed or something?

jason

== Mr. 2 Ccents respodned:
Reroblem?

i dont have a problem. apparently, all of you folks do.

i just mentioned a fact and all of you attack because of that.

instead of PM me, why dont you add this to the thread?

== so now I'll respond
I'm not attacking you for your supposed "fact". I'm just attacking your desire to be a jerk. Were you making your original post because you care that we might be doing something illegal and it might get us into trouble? Or were you just shooting your mouth off? Honestly, I don't think you give a crap about any of us. Is there some other option than "shooting your mouth off" that I haven't thought of? Really? Do you get the difference here? I'm not hurt by your words, but only what I can make about your intention. To me, what you wrote appears to be nothing other than pompous and cynical.

mexicanpizza, make sense now to you to?


jason

ldivinag

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believe it or not... YES.

imagine when alex gets served with a search warrant. what happens next? does alex have the necessary $$$ to fund a fight or will he give up the database?

ldivinag

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MP,

you dont count in this study...

mmboost

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"great... blatant disregard for the law, posted on a public forum..."

bull****. say what you mean. mean what you say.

dr3d1zzl3

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Under current fair use laws what mmboost is doing is perfectly legal. So long as the person receving the back up has a copy of the movie in another format. (which is entirely possible as it is not on dvd). It is not illegal to make back up copies of your own personal items so long as you do not reap a profit or distribute them to others who do not in fact own it allready.

I was poking fun at his use of language and syntax as it was more b0rk3d then most.

dr3d1zzl3

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its called DVD XCOPY and of course FAIR USE

do you even know wtf your talking about?

dr3d1zzl3

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I work in information security/IT
i am a CISSP and i follow IP law with the EFF for fun.


oh and i masterbate to scrambled porno on chanell 99 at 3am in the morning while eating cheetos. And that is how i got my nick name "Fire stick".

dr3d1zzl3

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dr3d1zzl3

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Welcome to the wonderful world of greddy corporations who lack creativity in buisness plans and practices. Technology will force them to change their ways or they will perish, that is what happens in revolutionary times. And we ar elucky enought to be right in the smack middle of such a time. Where technology outpaces the laws to govern it, we find such intresting ethical, moral, and legal issues such as fair use and the likes. Simply because the companies who produce these products dont understand the fundemental shift that has taken place (and still is) doesnt mean that you should buy into the hype of what they say. It is not illegal to make a copy of a dvd you own. No where in the law does it state that. It is illegal to make copies for commercial use but personal is ok.

Simply because the ub3r corporations havent figured out a way to make money on the shift of distrobution that has occrured due to technology does not make using htat technology illegal. It just makes the laws involved with such endeavours ancient and antiquated.

mmboost

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That's not illegal!

jason