Bay Area Enginuity Tuners?
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Checked out their website, and got some more info. This info might be helpful to others out there using OpenECU and would like a tune from a professional.
http://www.ssautoconcepts.com/service.html
I'm not sure if they have changed anything, but on the website they charge $150 for a custom road tune using OpenECU.
http://www.ssautoconcepts.com/service.html
I'm not sure if they have changed anything, but on the website they charge $150 for a custom road tune using OpenECU.
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Checked out their website, and got some more info. This info might be helpful to others out there using OpenECU and would like a tune from a professional.
http://www.ssautoconcepts.com/service.html
I'm not sure if they have changed anything, but on the website they charge $150 for a custom road tune using OpenECU.
http://www.ssautoconcepts.com/service.html
I'm not sure if they have changed anything, but on the website they charge $150 for a custom road tune using OpenECU.
#21
Basile brings up a good point though.
- Why do companies buy million dollar software licenses from Microsoft when Open Office is free?
- Why do companies buy Cisco equipment when competitors are cheap, or free?
The answer is support. If Cobb's software screws you, they damn well better take responsibility and fix it, or help you. If open source screws you - who can you blame? Of course opensource has a big community to support you, but you get my point as to why sometimes you DO want to pay more for stuff.
My personal experience - modifying car on a budget = bad news waiting to happen There's no problem with tuning open source, but I'm worried (and perhaps I'm wrong) that your motivation is part of a bigger mentality of "modding my car for cheap"
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#23
I agree with this statement, Its one thing to get good deals (I'm a smart shopper) but I never go "cheap". My dad always bought cheapo garbage and it was just that, garbage.
#24
I would be interested to know how it goes with ssautoconcepts too.
I'm in the same situation as pwnx0rz, currently running the XPT stage 2 map and wanting more power. I have a vf34 lined up(hopefully) and all supporting mods. Just need to find a tuner around here willing to tune opensource.
Another thing you can consider is look in the classifieds for a used V1 AP. Cost about half of what a new V2 AP would cost. And most(if not all) tuner still support it.
I'm in the same situation as pwnx0rz, currently running the XPT stage 2 map and wanting more power. I have a vf34 lined up(hopefully) and all supporting mods. Just need to find a tuner around here willing to tune opensource.
Another thing you can consider is look in the classifieds for a used V1 AP. Cost about half of what a new V2 AP would cost. And most(if not all) tuner still support it.
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Basile brings up a good point though.
- Why do companies buy million dollar software licenses from Microsoft when Open Office is free?
- Why do companies buy Cisco equipment when competitors are cheap, or free?
The answer is support. If Cobb's software screws you, they damn well better take responsibility and fix it, or help you. If open source screws you - who can you blame? Of course opensource has a big community to support you, but you get my point as to why sometimes you DO want to pay more for stuff.
My personal experience - modifying car on a budget = bad news waiting to happen There's no problem with tuning open source, but I'm worried (and perhaps I'm wrong) that your motivation is part of a bigger mentality of "modding my car for cheap"
- Why do companies buy million dollar software licenses from Microsoft when Open Office is free?
- Why do companies buy Cisco equipment when competitors are cheap, or free?
The answer is support. If Cobb's software screws you, they damn well better take responsibility and fix it, or help you. If open source screws you - who can you blame? Of course opensource has a big community to support you, but you get my point as to why sometimes you DO want to pay more for stuff.
My personal experience - modifying car on a budget = bad news waiting to happen There's no problem with tuning open source, but I'm worried (and perhaps I'm wrong) that your motivation is part of a bigger mentality of "modding my car for cheap"
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As far as open source being cheap? Yes it is actually free but it is a different business model entirely. Open source has many support options if you want a company to stand behind you. For instance if you wanted to run RedHat Enterprise Linux for your servers instead of Windows, you would still pay RedHat money, not for the software it self but for the support they offer.
As far as using RomRaider + a tactrix cable, you would get the same level of support as say using street tuner from Cobb. You need to know what you are doing either way. If you want to pay for someone to tune your car using OpenECU stuff then you are giving them $ for support. I suggest you talk to ev8siv @ http://www.xpttuning.com/. I am sure you can work out a deal where he would remote tune your car and/or check over your logs for his XPT maps.
There is nothing wrong with open source tools for tunning your car, and this method will offer many more options and possibilities to you. Since I started tunning my car using open source tools with the help of ev8siv I have learned so much more about the inner workings of the ECU and the car in it's entirety then I would have if I just payed someone to do it for me and settled for the incredibly over priced AP.