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Old 09-01-2005, 10:52 AM
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Background of various tuners in bay area

What kind of background do various tuners have?

One criticism the Japanese seem to have of US tuners is that they are mechanics who lack real understanding and learn tuning based on experience. It would seem though that some tuners do have technical backgrounds. I was curious (if anyone knows) as to what the backgrounds are?

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Old 09-01-2005, 10:54 AM
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lol I can see this getting messy

btw, Bill isn't a bay area tuner....
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Originally Posted by 02BlackWRX
lol I can see this getting messy

btw, Bill isn't a bay area tuner....

OK lemme jump in. You are right this would get flaming, no talking about him, he shall not be named, my mistake, I editted that post haha. Just wanted to know some fyi info


and Jesus Christ I posted some stuff inquiring about SS once and their lynch mob posse jumps me. It seems like in Sac/Reno SS is God. So this post is meant to be objective only...

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What ever happened to ED..??

It seems like he hasn't been around much.....
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I think maybe you should do a search for threads about people' s experience with different tuners. Look at the threads from Gruppe-S, S^2, or Vishnu.
Read the charts. Call them up and ask questions.
I think that's the best approach.
Also, you may want to check their forums.
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Originally Posted by soggynoodles
I think maybe you should do a search for threads about people' s experience with different tuners. Look at the threads from Gruppe-S, S^2, or Vishnu.
Read the charts. Call them up and ask questions.
I think that's the best approach.

I have experience with most of these tuners, I am not asking about their effectiveness because I already know.



For actual tuner effectiveness, I think people who can read dyno charts well and looked over results from the various tuners already have their own answer and there's just no point in discussing crap like that. People obviously have allegiances, so it's a moot point.

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Originally Posted by MARKSTI
What ever happened to ED..??

It seems like he hasn't been around much.....


Ed took a huge flaming boot in the **** from the group of people who ardently defend a certain tuner, but he has developed quite a following in the south bay/santa Cruz area and is doing very well Only the years will tell, I'll leave it at that.

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Originally Posted by MARKSTI
What ever happened to ED..??

It seems like he hasn't been around much.....
Dunno he was in the orginal post.
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Funny...I questioned you about Bill and you took him out...but you took Ed Vaus out also.

Just curious...why?
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Ya Ed hasn't blown anything up yet!!
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Originally Posted by verc
and Jesus Christ I posted some stuff inquiring about SS once and their lynch mob posse jumps me. It seems like in Sac/Reno SS is God. So this post is meant to be objective only...
What question did you ask?
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Originally Posted by 02BlackWRX
Funny...I questioned you about Bill and you took him out...but you took Ed Vaus out also.

Just curious...why?
IIRC, Ed's a computer science student (or maybe a graduate now). I think he's done his best to make that clear to everyone, so maybe it isn't even an issue with Ed at EQ. He obviously has the tech background that would garner Japanese tuning respect.

Its probably best to let the tuners answer for themselves if they wish. Though, I really don't know what purpose calling out Shiv and Nate will really gain anyone.
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Originally Posted by nKoan
IIRC, Ed's a computer science student (or maybe a graduate now). I think he's done his best to make that clear to everyone, so maybe it isn't even an issue with Ed at EQ. He obviously has the tech background that would garner Japanese tuning respect.

Its probably best to let the tuners answer for themselves if they wish. Though, I really don't know what purpose calling out Shiv and Nate will really gain anyone.
yea, but what I don't get is why before he was saying "Ed Vaus is a computer science student, then he takes that out, yet he still leaves "Mike Warfield has electronics backround working for kenwood"

I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish with this post...if you want it to be 1 sided, keep it the way it is, if you want it to be inpartial, then remove all names and just ask your question.
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Originally Posted by 02BlackWRX
yea, but what I don't get is why before he was saying "Ed Vaus is a computer science student, then he takes that out, yet he still leaves "Mike Warfield has electronics backround working for kenwood"

I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish with this post...if you want it to be 1 sided, keep it the way it is, if you want it to be inpartial, then remove all names and just ask your question.
good point! I have sanitized it completely now
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Originally Posted by nKoan
Its probably bet to let the tuners answer for themselves if they wish. Though, I really don't know what purpose calling out Shiv and Nate will really gain anyone.
Sorry, My mistake, I forgot to take them out when I took other comments out.
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